Raspberry Pi 3 on sale now at $35

Congrats!

Andrew Chalkley! Hello! Of all the millions of people’s names I could see, I see yours! Woohoo.

As for RPi, congratulations!

awesome job

I LOVE MY 2 RASPBERRY PIs, can’t wait to get my hands on the version 3.

This is a game changer, thank you!!

me too!

Happy Birthday Raspberians !

What about Gig interface ?

Yep. I love my Pi 2, but I went with the PINE this time because of the gigabit networking.

What did you benchmark the networking at?

You mean the perception of Gbps Ethernet, as well as all of the other promises made for the PINE64. Can I see your PINE64 running Gbps Ethernet, please? What is your Internet access speed? If it’s Google Fiber or something similar, you’re paying three-to-four times the cost of the Pi 3B per month for that service! This is not typical for a Pi user almost anywhere. Even if you do have Gbps Internet access, the vast majority of servers can’t provide anywhere near that kind of goodput (throughput reduced for noise, collisions, etc.), so why are you demanding something that is going to largely be unused in either direction, by you or anyone else?

It’s really to take it off of the USB bus, rather than to have it gigabit.

I’m using it to monitor my network, but I get 150+Mbps network, and I can’t test that with a 10/100 port… It’s not an ideal solution, but it’s an amazing little tool to do that with. I just wish I could get gbps speed out of the port. USB based gig ports adapters don’t seem to be effective…

Well, since i use my Pi B+ as a kind of a NAS, Gigabit Ethernet would be very welcome…
Internet access is not the only use for it…

Why would you assume a Gigabit Ethernet port would be used for gigabit Internet access, there are plenty of applications that run GigE LANs and aren’t even connected to the Internet at all.
For me though 100Mbps LAN is fine, but Power over Ethernet would be a useful addition.

One question, have you ever heard of local networking?

PINE has an allwinner cpu right? :/

i’m staying with PI3

I agree on gig although I’ll still be ordering 3’s. :) Gig is pretty much required if you are going to use a Pi to head a NAS. The talk about “What is your internet speed, etc” doesn’t apply to someone who wants to use it as a headless NAS controller or someone who wants to run OpenElec and stream UltraHD video… I run Pi 2’s for Openelec and have no issue with streaming 1080P however

That sound very inrerresting two Pi,s for streaming!? Can you tell me more about it? , is the Pi 3 maybe the solution? b.r James

I run Recalbox on my Pi2 for retro gaming and it has Kodi embedded in it. The Pi2 stutters and may freeze on N64 games (but I’m fine with the thousands of Atari, NES, SNES, Gameboy, MAME, Genesis, etc). And Kodi is there for all your streaming needs via 3rd party addons. The BEST part of recalbox for me is that it pairs nicely with PS3 controllers and it runs smoothly on the pi2. I’ll be getting a 3 to finally not have to worry about Mario Kart crashing on N64… just before the finish line!

There’s an X-Ray of the Raspberry Pi 3 at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ultrapurple/25313223701/in/dateposted/

It’s quite a feat of engineering – all the wiggly lines are to equalise delays between signals that need to arrive at precisely the same time…

Why would anyone want to see an x-ray of the….OMG! I WANT THAT TATTOOED ON MY FACE!!! Oh, ahem…I guess it’s kinda cool…. ;)

Well done! This is what you call a reformer!

Rasp for life.

Chalkley of ELSM fame?

That’s incredible.

Good news about the pi but Chalkley!

This blog has replaced Friends Reunited!

Hi,

Perfect, worth waiting for !!!!

Warmest Regards
Ioannis

http://www.pimodules.com

You are the best! Thank you!

Bon anniversaire ! Where will we be in 20200229 ?

Bravo everybody.

You are the best! Thank you!

And the figures are truly mind-boggling: to you, Raspberry Pi, to the next four(ty) years!

Awesome news, I placed an order for one a few hours ago at RS.

they seem to have jumped the gun a little :p

WOOHOO!!

Congratulations.
Ordered mine.
Excited to see how it performs, especially with the Wifi/Bluetooth not tied to the USB.

We have the podcast live now with an interview with Eben Upton.
Talking about the Pi 3 and what it took to make it happen as well as more details on software optimisation and some future work.
http://thepipodcast.com/the-pi-podcast-16-raspberry-pi-3-special-with-eben-upton/

Some performance benchmarks for the new Pi 3 at http://makezine.com/2016/02/28/meet-the-new-raspberry-pi-3/. You can compare them to other machines at http://www.roylongbottom.org.uk/dhrystone%20results.htm.

Congrats

Happy birthday and thank you for making such a game-changing computer. It has changed teaching in Computing for ever and has already changed the lives of so many people around the world. Ooh – and congrats on managing to bring out the Pi 3 today at such a god price :-)

yay its out :D

Congrats, thanks, and Happy Anniversary. I look forward to whatever you release on 29 Feb 2020. (That’s to keep you from getting complacent!)

i didn’t know they were going to release something then too… lol i’m still a newbie to raspberry pi

Happy birthday! I’m so excited to use this on our next projects! Weeeh!

Whoop!
Fantastic achievement.

Texy

Awesome news! I’ve had a chance to get my hands on a Raspberry Pi 3 and review it! See here: https://youtu.be/Y2Z6b64eh2E

The Raspberry Pi Guy!

Nice video, thanks for posting this.

Glad that you enjoyed the video!

happy birthday Raspberry pi :D

Is there a reason the ethernet was not upgraded to gigabit? Was the wireless certification part of the project that resource consuming? Newer datacenter switches are not supporting 100m speeds.

I’m pretty sure that 100% of educational establishments support 100mb.
Texy

IIRC on the original Raspberry PI Ethernet Interface was basically attached the the USB controller, which was (is (?)) USB 2, which can only do 480 mbit, so Gigabit was not possible.

I was crossing my fingers for Gigabit in this release.

Of course it’s possible. Check Amazon; there are any number of USB 2.0 gigabit ethernet adaptors on the market. Of course, you won’t be able to saturate the network from a 480Mbps bus. But you can still do a lot better than 100Mbps.

Actually… 480Mbit USB 2.0 is just theoretical.

Bugs/design flaws… call them what you may limit throughput to about 280Mbit and I think that’s total.

and I would love to use many of them around my WANs as network monitors/speed checkers but the 100mb interface thwarts this.

Next time please?

Ian

@Jared_Mauch – What are you talking about, not supporting 100 Mbps speeds? That’s so ridiculous that it’s … well, ridiculous! Any Ethernet device will operate at whatever speed it can and the switches will deal with whatever packets come whenever they come, taking care of other circuits while waiting for the slower interface to do its thing. Besides, there aren’t many datacenter switches connected directly to Pii … sheesh!

Getting beyond 100 Mbps on a shared network segment (which most Pii are on, anyway), even with a USB Gbps Ethernet dongle, won’t get past 100 Mbps due to contention, and if there’s _anything_ else going on within the Pi’s USB bus, there’s going to be contention there, too, see also “chokepoint”.

I have el-cheapo GB switches and they can perfectly handle 3-4 simultaneois full speed GB full duplex movie file transfers at the same time. Internal switching power is 16GBPS.

Each speed of twisted pair ethernet is a seperate standard (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T, 10GBASE-T). Traditionally ports have been engineered to support slower speeds as well for backwards compatibility but this has never been a strict requirement.

The electrical requirements of 10GBASE-T are challanging to say the least. Trying to support lots of different electrical standards at the same time as supporting the electrical requirements of 10GBASE-T is extremely challanging.

Ports that support 10GBASE-T usually also support 1000BASE-T, sometimes but not always support 100BASE-TX and afaict never support 10BASE-T.

Note: I’m just providing information here, I don’t see this as a major issue for the Pi.

The power requirements of a 10Base-T port are vastly higher than the whole Pi. We use SFP+DA in the data centre instead because 10Base-T uses too much power and cooling.

my WANs are made up mainly from 1Gbs wireless segments. I need to check the speed these links are achieving.

It’s not possible to speed check a 1Gbs link with a device with a 100Mbs interface. I’m instead using mini-itx devices with 1Gbs interfaces. But it would be nicer to use Pis…

Ian

The people demanding Gbps Ethernet constitute a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percentage point of the now eight million-plus Pi users. A typical Gbps switch with any real capacity costs orders of magnitude more than the Pii they’re talking about connecting to them and is the biggest waste of money I’ve ever heard of, bar none. For those babbling about connecting NASes, the internal chokepoint on the Pi’s bus is going to spoil your day no matter how big and fast your drives are. People say that there won’t be anything else on the bus, but that’s rarely true because there is more going on in these systems than they realize. Trying to torque a low-cost educational computing device to do things it’s not meant to support and being disappointed is a fool’s errand – sometimes you get what you pay for, no more, no less.

That’s amazing guys. So much power! Surely you can’t keep it up at this rate? A very Happy Birthday to to.

Oh you really need to have a word with CPC and RS. Ordered mine at 6am and I’ve been looking at the ad since last week ;)

Congrats to the team for — once again — a very nice job, thank you! And also, happy bierthday Rpi!
I was thinking of buying my 3th Rpi 2 B, that will –of course — be a Rpi 3 now.

Sorry for the typo. Bierthday ==> birthday.

what about the RAM?

1gig of RAM

I’m waiting for 2GB of RAM.

Any plans for a model with more RAM? It’s usable a a perfect low power always-on workstation now. I’d buy it with more ram (2GB, maybe more) even for a higher price.

Anyway, fantastic work, thumbs up!

I’ve already ordered two from Farnell.

No plans. There is an architectural limitation with the VC4 which means 1GB is the limit. Learn to write less memory hungry code!

This is a great response: back to code optimization! No more code that eats up memory as if we were in M$ world! :D

But a flat static Data structure make things often faster then a new CPU!

I suppose you could have the first 4GB of the ARM’s physical memory map going through the current path and higher addresses diverted to a second block of memory, private to the ARM? It wouldn’t be visible to the peripherals or videocore, but it could be used for user-mode programs. So 1GB shared and everything else private to the ARM.

I know nothing about the BCM’s internals, so I’m just speculating.

Yeah, I understand the limits of VC4 but I would be awesome to have more RAM 2G or even 4G to run smoothly i.e. Ubuntu Mate

Too bad element14 isn’t selling it yet…

Yes waiting for element14 order page

Four years ago I was amazed and on board this unstoppable train, and many Pi’s have entered my house. And it continues in a great way! Congrats and see you next birthday in 4 years! RPi 6?

Any idea how fast is the wireless lan? I am wondering whether it is possible to run kodi without lan now

It seems to be a 802.11n-chip If I am not wrong…but already “normal” Wlan with 54 Mbit(g) should reach ~2 Megabyte, enough for me to watch even my hd-films over wlan without a problem.

If you are having trouble running kodi on g-type wifi, your problem is not the speed of your wireless adapters. The problem is the number of your neighbours who are also using wifi in the same or an overlapping channel. It’s a bit like getting stuck in a traffic jam: a faster car won’t get you through any quicker; what you need is a less crowded road.

(OK, techies, I know that the road is not a good analogy for wifi, but it is an illustration of congestion vs. equipment as a cause of slow results.)

In densely populated areas, the 2.4 GHz waveband is overcrowded, and has been so for a long time. Unfortunately, the wifi chip in the Raspberry Pi 3 will only work on that crowded 2.4 GHz band. The solution for the Raspberry Pi 3 is the same as for the Raspberry Pi 2: you need a 5 GHz wireless access point (usually sold as a router) and a 5 GHz wifi adapter (or “dongle”) for your Pi.

Presumably this particular chip was chosen by R-Pi for its small size and low price, in keeping with the R-Pi’s intended purposes.

An excellent evolutionary step. This provides a great flagship system for the RasPi series and crucially maintains the option of full 32 bit compatibility with the promise of 64 bit processing enhancements.

Hopefully effort has gone into increasing the opensource mode of the system hardware.

A truly great effort by all involved.

Richard

I will never stop being amazed at this device! Thank you for your forward thinking for all of our youth and adults alike! I love this!!! Chris-WO1T

Happy anniversary and I’m truly excited about this new Pi. Hopefully over time we can all get 64 bit support everywhere we can. Being able to retain the same price as the original Raspberry Pi B is truly amazing. Four years and dollar for dollar you’re getting 10x the performance. Keep up the amazing work guys and girls, there’s no tech community like this one :)

I thought that you should release it on the 14th of March?

At the rate they’re cranking out new models, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Pi 4 on Pi Day 2016!!! :D

What will be the advantages of the 64 bit processor?

That entirely depends on your application. Most home-coded projects have little use for the increased computing capabilities of 64 bit. Most beneficial will be video data processing and multi-tasking applications on desktop systems. Given that many people buy the RPi as a replacement for their desktop, that’s an important factor. I do hope the 64-bit development chain is released soon by the Foundation.

I’m wondering as well. 64-bit only makes sense if you have upwards of 4 GB of RAM.

This is just incorrect. If you want to make use of more than 4Gb of address space then you need more than 32 bits of address and 64 bit registers certainly provide that. But the converse does not apply!
At least with the ARM 64 ISA you can have 32 bit pointers for example, so you don’t ‘waste’ memory with 64bit pointers everywhere. Your data does not suddenly double in size. You do not need double the memory.

There’s so much idiotic uninformed nonsense around the net on this right now; let’s not add to it here.

No need to flame, there are kids watching.

“You do not need double the memory.”

This is just silly. The Pi 3 would be much more useful with more RAM. Forget about 4gB. Why not 64gB or whatever the user’s applications and data require? Pi 3 could be a useful general-purpose computer with just a few bottlenecks like RAM and bandwidth raised. 1gB eliminates lots of applications and a lot of multi-processing.

Moore’s Law and ARM have allowed us to have a lot of computing power on a tiny chip. Why not use it all? All over the world there are millions of ARMed systems being limited by RAM or networking bandwidth or cache or storage. It’s 2016. ARM can compete against Intel on price/performance with just a tiny increase in resources.

You don’t need 64-bit registers to get beyond 4GB. The Large Physical Address Extension supports 40-bit physical addresses, and the Cortex-A7 implements that. Which is 1TB. Each app gets its own private virtual->physical mapping table, leading to overlapping address spaces.

The problem is, from what I gather the ARM is really just bolted onto the side of the videocore, like a co-processor. The memory is attached to the videocore’s bus, which is essentially 30-bit (plus 2 bits for cache control). Hence the maximum addressable physical ram is 1GB. To go beyond that you would need to either completely redesign the whole SoC, or else give the ARM a separate bus somehow.

One major advantage to 64-bit CPUs over 32-bit CPUs is certainly the potential address space, but as has been pointed out this doesn’t really apply in a Raspberry Pi environment.

Being someone who focuses a lot on combinatorics and AI programming, I am simply thrilled that the Raspberry Pi 3 boards, with appropriate compiler support will host 64-bit integers natively. That’s a HUGE bump in my world of big numbers, actually, so I would be seeing major speedups, especially through parallel processing across all four 64-bit ARM cores and to connected FPGAs cranking away for advanced high speed computation.

Main advantage right now is that the A53 core can run at 1.2Ghz, considerably faster than the Pi2.

And once implemented, 64 bit processing in 1GB is perfectly possible. Only pointer NEED to be 64 bit, not the memory they point to. So, let’s say you have a 10MB JPEG image, pointed to in memory. The added storage going to 64bit? TWO BYTES. Completely insignificant.

Not strictly true. Pointers do not need to be 64bit values in memory unless your OS insists on using a >4Gb address space. The v8 ISA is quite happy – so far as I can make out from the docs, it’s always possible I’m misunderstanding – to load 32 bit values from memory to use as pointers. They get extended in the destination register; and anyway the current v8 memory translation system appears to limit actual addresses to 49 bits (see PRD03-GENC-010197 p.13).
v* still treats 32 bits as the general ‘int’ so there’s no sudden doubling of data size. Instructions are still 32 bits, so there’s no automatic doubling of code size. The people out there loudly claiming that to use a 64 bit cpu you have to have more than 4Gb of ram are just plain wrong.

Congratulations, and nice to see the new Pi!

Regarding Wlan/Bt, is it possible to connect an external antenna? Otherwise I could imagine that a metal-case would be not so good…or is it possible do disable the internal chip?

However – I want it :) Good work!

Congratulations and Happy Birthday.

Raspberry Pi has literally changed many lives including mine. I’m sure those concerned are extremely grateful. I know I am.

Thank you

Is it still camera shy?

No. See my video overview to see the new U16 with black shield on it…

https://youtu.be/wTTa-24whdw

No, a component swap fixes that issue :)

Was interested to see that the BCM43438 radio wasn’t encapsulated though?

Looks like it’s still light sensitive due to the radio chip: http://www.golem.de/news/raspberry-pi-3-im-ersten-test-kein-grund-zur-eile-1603-119469-4.html

still not enough RAM, it is cool that wifi is now integrated, but the cpu boost is not usable without more RAM…

Lukas, In what was is the extra CPU “not usable” without extra RAM? I can write lean code that performs highly complex maths and hammers the CPU for instance.

It’s because, as we all know, RAM makes a computer faster!!! Sometimes I really hate PC marketing… The often spew falsehoods and inaccuracies such as that.

You don’t need extra RAM to take advantage of a faster CPU.

Nice:-) SDIO for WiFi I assume, GPIO’s 34-39 alt3? BT on second serial port, 40/41?

First project: hack the hardware to use the 43438’s FM receiver too.

I wondered this too, how are they hooked up (Eben said sdio/uart, but not which GPIO)? Does it stop you using anything on the hats (e.g. SDIO, UART?)

HAT connector unchanged, save for a different serial peripheral being mapped out to the same pins.

If a hack for the FM is available then we can send AND recive…. which would be pretty useful for a diy ham radio or other comms.

Happy Birth Day

My new Raspberry Pi 3 is on the way to me.

https://jiffyshop.com.au/SBC/raspberry-pi/108-raspberry-pi-3.html

But thats for $66 in stat off the $35 the tell us here ???

The $35 is US Dollar, at the factory gate. Well ok, in the stores then. But to get it to you, you pay the seller for putting your RPi3 in a box that can be shipped and the cost of then shipping it over to you. And if the box crosses some border, you may be liable to pay import tax/duty too.

Let’s not repeat the continues whining after the Pi Zero launch, shall we? :-\

Australian dollars isn’t the same as US dollars.
66 Australian dollars = US$ 47.50
US$35 is the base price, without shipping and takes.

Well done all.
I’ve ordered mine from Pimoroni – although just spotted that they are still selling with 2amp power supply rather than the newly recommended 2.5 (depending on which peripherals are used wi it).

WHOO HOOOO, THIS IS FANTASTIC, INTEGRATED WIFI AND BLUETOOTH WILL FREE UP TWO USB PORTS, TWO!!!

Happy birthday and thank you for the exciting gift!!
We are looking forward to having it soon.

from Japan, KSYIC.com
https://raspberry-pi.ksyic.com/

Got one in the post!

Will make my Pi Projects a little more stream lined, at least until the Model A variant comes out :D

Now what to do with all these WiFi USB Dongles I have…

Congratulations.
I note it needs a new power supply …
2.5 A power supply. With more processor speed and on-board connectivity, you’ll need more power. Power supplies for previous Pi boards will not be sufficient. You will need the Official Raspberry Pi Power Supply

You will only need a new power supply (above 2 Amps) if you’re pushing the entire SoC to the limit, and that means fully exercising the GPU that makes up over 90% of the die that most people seem to forget is even there. I assume the A53 accommodates power throttling when it’s not doing a lot, as do all of the previous SoCs’ CPUs, so if you’re only doing bursts of CPU activity with just typical desktop graphics GPU demands, you’re not going to need full power. It will be interesting to see power loads when typical apps are exercised in normal use cases. Most code won’t even use the 64-bit capabilities for quite a while, until/if/when ports are performed where they don’t already exist.

The official Raspberry Pi Universal Power Supply is only 2.0 A, see https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/universal-power-supply/

Does this new version 3 able to decode full-HD H.265/HEVC files ?

It’s the same VideoCore GPU, so no. The faster CPU will improve software decoding, but it’s still not hardware accelerated.

but could the new cpu with neon be fast enough for 1080p hevc decoding?

The Ars Technica – article does claim support for H.265/HEVC up to 1080p@30FPS on the RPi3 — “The new Pi also gains H.265 support for the first time but is limited to 1080p at 30fps.” at http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/raspberry-pi-3-has-wi-fi-and-bluetooth-64-bit-chip-still-just-35/

At this point I am looking for someone to confirm or deny this because whether I buy an RPi3 or not fully depends on this.

Really needed a next generation Video Core with:

– h264 and h265 4k hardware decoding
– newer Opengl ES version supported (maybe latest OpenGL without ES :D )
– allow the Pi to have 4 GB RAM

great, can’t wait to get my hands on one.

Happy birthday!!

Many happy Birthday and congratulations
Link to element 14 goes to Pi page but does not show the Pi 3. Link to RS does but they redirect you to PiHut (and others if you are not a “business”.

Seems best to go to Pimoroni or PiHut directly.

Leo

I’m not a business but managed to order one from RS without any difficulty (I didn’t use the link though, I just searched online). It’s free next day delivery too!

On The Pi Podcast hear Eben Upton give all the details and more.

http://thepipodcast.com/the-pi-podcast-16-raspberry-pi-3-special-with-eben-upton/

This is great! I’ve had a model A, a model B, a model B+, (which now all my friends have inherited) and I’m now using a Pi 2 for Kodi for myself. Kept talking myself out of buying another Pi 2 so my little boy could have one, now I don’t have to! I never bought a zero, first because of availability, and then because I realized the Pi 2 had more to offer for the same price once you bought all the attachments (for my personal needs, anyway). I’m SO excited it has Wi-Fi, although to be honest, the Wi-Fi on mine has always been spotty so I’ve kept it plugged to Ethernet.

Could anyone answer a question for me? Although I’m a Geek by nature I’m also a girl so I love to accessorize…cases? Although they SAID the B+ cases also fit the Pi 2, I at the time had a stack case, and it didn’t. I haven’t yet bought a pretty case for my Pi 2 for fear I will have to leave it behind just like I did before. Will most cases for Pi 2 fit Pi 3? I kinda know now to stay away from stack cases. *sob*

Pibow, for instance, already have Pi 3 cases available. They also list being compatible with Pi 2 (and other models). So is that a possibility? If Stacking cases are your kind of thing (I like them too) I’m sure they’ll list compatibility soon. I see no reason why the multi-pi wouldn’t work but no harm waiting for it to be confirmed. Where didn’t your old case fit?

They specifically cut out around all the little chips on the board in each slice, and as you can see, on each new board they scoot the chips around to different places. Fortunately the B+ was given to my best friend whose favorite color is also purple. I ordered my Pi 3 and a white and red Pi 3 modular case from Pi Supply, because Element 14 was out of stock with Pi’s by the time I got around to ordering from them. Being in the US, I had to sleep, got the news it was available as I was going to bed and ordered as soon as I got up. Just lucky I didn’t miss out and have to wait!!

Fantastic work! I can’t wait to test out the media playback :)

Cool, great, I love it, especially if there will be model A with these features. But what about adding a tiny u.fl connector for external antenna? It costs merely nothing, but adds so much range. Guys and gals, please!! :)

What fantastic news to wake up to. A real surprise!

A comment just dripping in sarcasm :)

So basically, it’s a raspberry 2, with built-in wifi and bluetooth, yeah… It would be funny to see the hype-driven fanboys switch from the zero to this one. Fan up the hype.

There is a different CPU in the chip.
Big change from just adding WiFi and BlueTooth.
Not to mention there might be some other differences.

“has been replaced by a custom-hardened 1.2GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53”

What does “custom-hardened” mean in this scenario?

Custom-hardened means you’ll break a tooth trying to bite into the SoC to see if it’s a genuine nugget, like in the Wild West gold prospectin’ days of the ’49ers (1849ers, that is :) Hence the specs including Bluetooth as a feature, because that’s what you’ll have after trying to bite an SoC, a Blue tooth! :D

Sorry, I just could not resist that one … ;)

Congrats on the 4th anniversary from the Kiwi Electronics team!

Nice birthday prezzie thnaks all

Hi,

what about the ethernet, still connected to USB?

Ben

i want to know this too!

Yes. Wifi is on the SDIO port.

It’s still not available to purchase on element 14 (in Malaysia).

Can you check on this? Really want to get one before it runs out of stock.

So only SATA is missing ;)

You have made yourself a nice Birthday present :)

Happy Birthday! :)

Sadly you cannot fullfill everyones whises. My priority is:
1) more RAM
2) ADC/DAC
3) Non USB power supply. It was already hard to find a stable power supply
4) Latest OpenCV in the repository compiled with NEON usage

Maybe I get 1 and 3 on your 5th birthday :)

You can use the hardware pwm followed by integrator like a simple rc network to do DA conversion. Works fine.

Congratulations!

Is there somewhere some detailed specs? RAM? What’s the BCM2837-based Compute Module 3?
Thanks

Well I never. I thought that you were just going to stop at the model B rev. 2 but now there have been so many models. CONGRATULATIONS!

Ordered mine a few minutes ago! Thank you, will definitely love it!

That’s awesome. Keep up the good work mates!

Are the new bluetooth drivers and wifi drivers already released?
I’ve got mine at home already but do not seem to see the BT or wifi.

New raspbian image released today –
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/

Texy

Excellent news! Congratulations with the new Pi!! This really makes my monday a good monday ;-)

Enjoy this great day!

Regards,
Daniël

I’ve just ordered a couple of 3B. Now, the logical next step is an “A+” version. With Wifi you can skip the ethernet port, and you often only need one usb-port for initial setup.
A “Raspberry Pi3 Model A+”, with 64-bit 1.2GHz quad-core, at least 1GB RAM, and internal/onboard Wifi, would definitely be very interesting, and I would have bought several the moment I got the chance. :-)

I would actually like to see the zero with wifi.

Excited for the 3 with wifi but I really want to see the zero with wifi.

Seeing the current zero would be a quantum leap… (a parallel between Sinclair’s QL [and his other products] delivery delays and the zero’s might not be involuntary)

Happy Birthday!

And what great way to celebrate it!

I saw some rumors about a «Raspberry Pi 3» the other day, by someone having peeked at FCC documentations — but then here you came and exceeded the expectations. No-one had sussed out that the processor itself had been upgraded too, you see…

So here is a big cheer from me!

And I’ve put in an order at the pi-hut, so I’m on track to be seeing and trying out this goodness, first hand.

Happy Birthday, Raspberry Pi! :) Welcome, RPi 3! [:{]

OMG I WANT ONE

Awesome. Going to order mine soon. I can’t wait to try out both Linux and FreeBSD on it.

Please make a Pi 3 Model A! With built in wireless and a single USB plus the new CPU would make an awesome Wi-Fi speaker or emulation or robot or anything that doesn’t need many USB or Ethernet! Please?!

Love the new machine though and it’s price point. Now just needs a SATA connector or USB3 for my ownCloud install… hint hint Hehe

Congrats to the team!

I think it is good that it has built in internet and Bluetooth

Happy Birthday!

Quad-core and still no heat sink… What’s the TDP on the chip at this point?

Congratulations on your birthday, with this lovely present to the rest of the world too!

The Pi3 is now for sale in the Netherlands too! Congrats of the whole team of RaspberryStore.nl.

Happy anniversary.

Don’t you think increasing the production of the pi zero would have made more sense instead of releasing a new pi?

The availability of the pi zero is still a major joke.

It makes no sense whatsoever.
Why reduce the production of your most profitable products so you can make more of a (much)less profitable one ?

The RPi Foundation is non-profit…

The Raspberry Pi Trading company isn’t.

I totally agree, the availability of Pi-Zero is still a big joke, not that , this is launched, I guess the focus has shifted from Pi-Zero to the new hardware.

Any news on the RP-0

no matter about the urgence(really?)for the new pi 3 but what about the sheer probability of getting one pi zero?, or better the possibility to place an order of 10 pi0 just for the sake of implementing distributed applications? please restock them. I do have 6 pis but the zero has a form factor that is really priceless.

ONe the demand for Pi3 drops off there will be production capacity for more Zero’s. But the 3’s take priority as they cover a larger part of the market.

My tenth raspberry is now on order.

You really should work harder to keep your new machines embargoed and not leaked the Register in future.

Even Apple, with all there billion$ can’t stop pre-launch leaks……….

Amazing! We plan to use raspiberry pi to host some sections of our website API becuase it’s really efficient in terms of cost. The biggest problem that I have is the storage, if we could speed that up or an option to attach ssd to them this will be revolutionary!

http://wdlabs.wd.com/

Do get in contact, the RaspberryPi website is part hosted on the Raspberry Pi.

http://blog.mythic-beasts.com/2016/02/29/hosting-the-raspberry-pi-3-launch-on-a-raspberry-pi-3/

We’ve handled nearly 1 million requests so far today from the Pi3 – it’s 50% quicker than the Pi2.

I never thought Raspberry PI 3 would launch this early. A week before I bought PI 2 :( need to upgrade to PI 3

Your Pi2 was clearly adequate for your requirements when you purchased it, so why is it now compulsory to buy a Pi3 to replace it?

Happy Birthday :)

That’s a great upgrade to the Pi. THANK YOU for keeping the form factor the same as well!

Right, time to order one via the special MagPi subscribers code :)

It was only yesterday I made a tutorial to enable USB wifi on RPi2 headless (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prhinghigsY) lol. But I am happy with this announcement. Congratz!

Just managed to see it on the Farnell web site. I had been refreshing the page since 7:00. Then at 8:15 it showed up. Ordered one and it said out of stock!

They do have them in stock after all, so I should get it tomorrow. At a price of £30.00 that is without VAT but includes “free” delivery.

Four year ago I was buying RPi. Happy anniversary!

This is simply wonderful news. The built in wifi and BLE is perfect for my application. Couldn’t find any listed on US based sites – so just ordered one from Pimoroni with next day delivery to USA.

Of course… I did HAVE to just purchase 67 Model 2 B’s last week didn’t I. Oh well. Can’t really complain.

Great things as always!
Good work on the new Pi, credit to the team it gets more beautiful every iteration.

congrats team raspberry.. i want to know the size of this raspberry pi 3 model?
because it is also a major constraint for my projects.
Thanks and congrats again for this fruitful work.. :-)

Saw this and jumped straight to Farnell – 1127 in stock – entered my details – *poof* – out of stock.

RS Components still showing over 22,000 in stock :-).
And Happy Birthday RaspPi!
I’m very happy!

Yes, and I managed to snap one up from RS. Strangely, an hour later they’re /still/ showing 22241 in stock.

Am I the only person who’s worked out how to buy as a (cough) business, or are they being shovelled straight off the production line and into RS warehouses?

Either way, perhaps this explains why Zeros are so hard to come by. I presume the manufacturing lines are being turned over to the Pi 3.

Yes, priority to Pi3 since that will have a much larger user base.

Wow, 35$ for Rasberry Pi 3 is very cheap! Where can I buy it?

any information about,
will there a special Windows 10 IoT Core 64 bit version comming for the RPi3 ?

Windows 10IoT will support Raspberry Pi 3.
Not sure about there would be a 64bit edition.

Windows 10 IoT will support Raspberry Pi 3.
Not sure about it will be 64bit or not.

Brilliant news! Ordered one from PiHut right away :)

@Liz the missing question from the inline FAQ – how long will the Zero continue to be made available?

Forever – we’re churning them out as fast as we can. We’re really sorry we weren’t able to explain why there was a bit of a slow-down; it was because we were using the whole production line for Pi 3 pre-launch!

It all makes perfect sense now. While the bottlenecks in production of the zero have been frustrating, I think the Foundation has handled the challenges very well, and has done a very good job of communications.

I believe that an aspect that we are not conscious of enough is that despite the fact that the foundation is a non-profit, it is still operating in a competitive market. – The user base is key to the foundation’s success. I won’t go into the details of my thoughts, but I believe the zero and the 3 are both key to cementing the Raspberry Pi’s position as the goto platform for a large user base, which, as I mentioned, is key to the foundation achieving its goals.

Shame that it still seems to use the same ethernet module – which is restricted to 100Mbps. That was one of the main reasons I didn’t get the Raspi 2 (went for an Odroid insttead with a gigabit ethernet port).

Any way to use an external antenna on the WiFi?

Is ETHERNET still shared via USB?

Ethernet plug still shared, but Wifi/BT is via SDIO, so a different bus.

I have to take a bus to get there?

lol, but seriously we need a different bus for IO. This is getting ridiculous.

What are you lol’ing about? I hate public transportation!!

Happy Birthday guys :)
Woke up to a frosty cold morning feeling a bit under the weather. Then I see Both Pimoroni and Adafruit live streaming. What’s going on I thought, then to discover there is a new RPi in town. You made my week :)

P.s. Ordered one quicker than you can ask “Are you getting one” LoL

Many thanks for this very great work to all people who contribute to it.

Please continu to surprise us all the time !
And in the future version, if you think about integrating a CAN Bus driver, I will specially enjoy that !

The problem with this release is that the CPU didn’t need a performance boost. It was already fast at 900 MHz The GPU and RAM are in dire need of an upgrade. Web Browsing will be slow as always and GPU intensive applications will still be bottlenecked. :/

>Web Browsing will be slow as always and GPU intensive applications will still be bottlenecked.

Try it before you make assertions – the improvement in web browsing in particular is really surprising.

You can buy it at aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-Pi-3-Project-Board-Model-B-version-Improved-version

Happy Birthday Raspberry Pi.

Well done on the release of another great product. With built in wireless people I thought that would pretty much put an end to all the “it still needs xyz” comments, although I see some still got through :-)

I’ve ordered one – hopefully I will be able to demo some of my GPIO Disco Lights on the new Pi 3 at the party.

See you next week for the Birthday Party!

The Register jumps the gun again and provides wrong details ! “The Pi 3 Model B otherwise looks pretty much like 2015’s quad-core 32-bit ARM Cortex-A7-based Raspberry Pi 2: ”

Ordered mine for extra “bragging” at the party next weekend :-)

Well Done everyone… Carry on !

PeterO

http://www.kubii.fr/1628-nouveau-raspberry-pi-3-modele-b-1-gb.html

46 euros. Whatelse …

I’m so disapointed to never have found Raspberry at regular price … :(

See Pimoroni or Pi hut – both can dispatch to France.

Thanks

But 32 GBP (41 euro) is expensive no ?

Because 35 USD = 25 GBP

Pimoroni says £26.67 GBP without VAT

Plus VAT

I really should refresh the page before I post!

Absolutely fantastic, listened to the interview as well

http://blog.pimoroni.com/raspberry-pi-3/

despite the whiners and moaners complaint about missing features, this a proof that evolution is a better path.

Backward compatibility is a great achievement and the whole team at PiTowers should be applauded.

This is great, would pay extra for 2Gb of RAM and 1Gb Ethernet as am running hypriot and docker on my Pi and the RAM especially would come in handy.

CPU horsepower is always welcome as is built in wifi to free up a port, thank you.

That’s awesome, I’ll get one by the end of this week!

Will this board support 4K UHD output?

Not specifically – GPU is same as previous model, so 4K at 15fps. But no video decode over 1080p.

A Model A Pi 3 will be interesting if it includes the wireless – I assume BT and WiFi are within the SoC package? Interesting from my perspective meaning that a BT keyboard / mouse no longer consumes the sole USB, leaving it free for a MIDI keyboard. Plus a Pi 3 specific synth can chuck the additional performance at double-clocking in 2 different places, leading to much more ‘analog’ sounding filters and even more alias-free oscillators. Definitely an opportunity to throw clock cycles at quality vs. quantity, because I can already do quite enough synths on a Zero. So I am very much looking forward to the $20 Model A version of this.

cool

Can it read analog signals yet? Are the GPIO pins protected?
And why aren’t they labelled yet?

Same GPIO as previous models, so no analogue.

Which is why I’ll stick to my Arduino. Labelled pins, analog read.

Arduino are for a different use case – they don’t have a GPU, 64 bits quad cores running at 1;.2GHz, or Linux. Very different devices, and they should not be compared with the Pi.

Instead of being compared, they should be connected.

Correct. And yet a few Analog IO’s would be so great !!!!!!!!

Happy first Birthday!
I’ll probably order my first Raspberry Pi today, since it’s my birthday as well :D

Happy birthday to you!

HaPi Birthday 4 years 3 Pi´s and a lot of fun!!!

Hippo Bathday!

Just bought one. Triffic!!!

I like Raspberry Pi II Model B
I play old Games on Retropi :-) on my FlatTV :-)

Great system Thanx

Is there a way to disable the WIFI and bluetooth? I’d love the increase in performance, but radio just adds issues with EMC and we don’t need it for our application.

Some people are never satisfied!!

No, Some people have more complex needs than others.

Then, by all means, people should acquire only as complex a system as they require, no more, and no less. The Pi is all about maximizing the greatest benefit to the largest number of people (starting with students, parents, and educators) at the lowest possible cost, not providing every variation of every possible feature any particular user might dream up. It’s $35 and you get much more than we used to pay for, still by a huge margin despite attempts at riding the Pi brand name by hawkers of loss-leader products (and self-admittedly about bankrupt at those prices … before they even deliver).

Metal Case ? ;-) [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage ]

Congratulations both on the 4th anniversary and the new Pi 3. And shame upon the people who have already started complaining that it’s not what they wanted.

Hi,
great news. What are the main differences between Raspberry pi 3 and Pine64 https://www.pine64.com/product?
They should have the same CPU more or less. What about GPU and other stuff?
Thank you

I’ve not done a direct comparison. The Pi specs are well known, shouldn’t take long to do a comparison. Don’t forget to also include support (from the manufacturers and the community) in your comparisons.

I own over 20 Raspberry Pis (I run Cotswold Raspberry Jam) and I backed a Pine 64+ 2GB on a whim. Have to admit I’m feeling rather short-changed now the Pi 3 is out, other than gigabit ethernet (GB eth0 is a notable win for my NAS project but rather irrelevant elsewhere; hence my 20:1 Pi:Pine ratio). I bought two Pi3s this morning and will be buying another to raffle off at our next event.

The Pine 64+ (Plus, not base Pine 64) can have gigabit ethernet and 2GB RAM, for a cost. Other differences over the Pi3 for all models of the Pine 64 include a real time clock, 4K HDMI, microphone input via the mini jack, and dual-core Mali GPU. However there are only 2 USB ports. Hardware specs are otherwise much the same; quad core 1.2GHz ARM.

Biggest problem is that there is as yet no official Linux support for the Pine 64 – only Android – and the community is as yet pretty much non-existent.

The Pine 64’s goal of being the first 64-bit single-board-computer is also obviously now lying in tatters ;-)

I’ve no doubt the Pine 64 will find its niche, especially once Linux support becomes real, but it isn’t the education-focussed classroom-hardened community powerhouse that the RPi is.

Having said that, the goal of the Raspberry Pi Foundation is to increase involvement of children in computing and electronics. ANYTHING that does that, be it the Codebug, Arduino, BBC Micro Bit, Pine 64, Raspberry Pi 3, Trinket or otherwise, is a win as far as the Raspberry Pi Foundation is concerned, I would have thought. (So long as nobody treads on any trademarks!)

In other news, my Commodore 64 is better than your Spectrum.

Andrew Oakley I’m in the same boat! I backed the Pine64 and now I see I should have just waited for Pi3!

There are already dozens, if not hundreds, of 64-bit SBCs, so Pine64 was never going to be the first (nor does it seem that’s what they’re really saying).

The difference with the Pine and the RPi versus existing SBCs is the cost, not the features.

Great news.

Kudos for the built-in WiFi which makes life much easier, instead of dealing with external adaptors that one is not sure is available next week – only one driver, very nice.

How is the coverage of the WiFi, the antenna seems quote smallish?

Or is there a possibility to connect an external antenna?

A few things from my wish list / proposals for the future:

OTG port, would be very useful when connecting a PC as a terminal, in embedded projects without screen.

A Zero+ with built in USB hub, and with one or two of the USB connectors at the end of the board, so a WiFi module can be kept inside the box, and only need for external connectors at one edge.
10$ would be an ok price, and in large quantities.

For OTG, read Andrew’s Blog: http://pi.gbaman.info/?p=699

Yes, but it would also be an advantage on the other types of Pi’s.

So zero is far more interesting that pi3.

Awesone RPi3!!! Cannot imagine what will RRi4 be :-D

nice spec bump, my only critique is the lack of a on/off switch on the mandatory new power supply. back to fiddling around with the awkward usb connector everytime i need to reboot it for a sd card swap :(

Micro USB power cables with rocker on/off switches have been available for a £1 or two on eBay for ages and easier to get to if you attach your Pi behind a TV. Much better than putting a tiny fragile switch on the board that can be accommodated in a case.

yes, i use one for the pi2 . the problem is, they are micro usb but terminate at the other end with a type A usb. you then you need to get a plug adaptor that supplyes the correct volts/amps for the usb cable. i recently got a 2.4 amp 5v anker usb plug (~£15 with shipping :/). it will wotk i guess.

This is what I use to turn my Pi on and off –

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018BFWLRU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Waiting for it eagerly, hope it’s as good as they claim. Want to make a render farm out of a cluster of these, let’s see if I am able to do that or not! :D

Happy Birthday Raspberians!

Pi3 can playback 4k ?

No. Scroll up.

never knew so many indian names in the list.
great work guys.

What about Gigabit Ethernet, USB 3 and may be a Sata Connection?

Yeah, what about them? The Pi 3 is $35, it’s ~60% faster than the previous model that’s still available at the same price, it’s 1,000% faster than the original model of four years ago, and every one of those features you listed costs more to include than the upgrades provided within the $35 price, let alone all of them. The Pi is all about providing the most functionality at the lowest possible price, while satisfying the greatest number of peoples’ needs (primarily for students, parents, and educators – everyone else is getting to ride along for the same price). The Pi is not about providing highest-end features that only a few want, let alone need.

Competitors at the $35 price point already have both SATA and Gigabit, and I suspect they produce far less units. Namely Orange Pi and Banana Pi. So, what’s keeping you from buying the competitors and getting out of here, you may ask. The answer is that they have some problems with software support. I am still waiting either Rasp meet my HW needs or Orange/Banana to solve their SW.

Please, I have two questions:

– what is the recommended power adapter, if I don’t “want to connect power-hungry USB devices”? I mean, if I just plug-in the keyboard, mouse, monitor and have WiFi on, what ratings do you recommend?

– Elsewhere I read that there is “no I2S connector for audio chips any more”. Does it hampers the possibility of having external DACs, like HifiBerry?

There is only one recommended power adapter, the 2.5A Raspberry Pi power adapter. But the power consumption is based on 1A to the processor plus 0.3A to the WiFi plus 1.2A to the USB

These are peak values only but of course you can easily get close to those numbers playing software decoded video for example (youtube on chromium!)

Thank you!

The Raspberry Pi Universal Power Supply is 2.0A, not 2.5A, see https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/universal-power-supply/

no, its 2.5A, see it here: http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/plug-in-power-supply/9098126/

“– Elsewhere I read that there is “no I2S connector for audio chips any more”. Does it hampers the possibility of having external DACs, like HifiBerry?”
That is simply untrue, the I2S functionality is unchanged.

What you might have read, and misinterpreted, is that when the model B+ came out the I2S functionality that was on a separate header, was moved to the main GPIO header. thats very old news, and at the time did not mean there was no I2S functionality anymore.

Farnell from Element14 sells only for business partners in Germany. The “main” Partner (link over registration, https://hbe-shop.de/) doesn’t sell Raspi 3. I would have buy one, but the process destroyed my fun, and make me wonder if I want to pay 40€ for a 35$ board… :/ Maybe you could check your partners…

You should learn to compute:

35 USD ÷ 1,0873 (current exchange rate) × 1,19 (VAT) = 38,31 €
cheapest reseller in Germany today: 39 €
Where’s the problem?

The affiliated distributor in Holland is Kiwi:

https://www.kiwi-electronics.nl/raspberry-pi/board-and-kits/raspberry-pi-3-model-b

I was able to get one next day. (Or at least the Package Tracking says its waiting for me at home).

Hi,
you should check Pollin and Reichelt, but they all have ~6 EUR shipping costs.

Congratulations. What a fantastic success Raspberry Pi has been. I am looking forwards to teaching my 8 year old grandson how to program using the R Pi. He is already an avid user of many things computing – and the inclusion of Minecraft on the NOOBS which we loaded onto a Pi Zero that I have set-up for him fired his imagination even further.

As a system programmer from 1966 – spending my whole career in matters IT I fully support the whole ethos of Raspberry Pi. Once again many congratulations on this milestone 4 years and so many models.

Happy birthday to the Raspberry Pi fundation ;)
Glad to see a new present for us, you’re really awesome !!!

Hope to see a ARMv8/NEON 64bits optimized Raspbian but little afraid of fragmentation and maintenance of a unique distribution for so many devices.

In the run up to today’s launch I sat down and talked with Eben about the new board, http://makezine.com/2016/02/28/eben-upton-talks-about-the-new-raspberry-pi-3/. Got some answer to the supply questions people are asking here!

Congratulations. Just one question: According to the German IT news website http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Raspberry-Pi-3-mit-ARMv8-ist-da-3119692.html there is currently no 64 bit Linux kernel for the Raspberry Pi 3 (despite the ARMv8 architecture). Is it planned that we’ll get one in near future (despite it could even be a little slower). The reason is that I can’t wait to play around in AArch64 assembly. :-)

For now the Foundation is still shipping a single unified Raspbian code base that runs on all of the existing Raspberry Pi platforms, and that means that they view the new 64-bit processor as “just a faster 32-bit core.” See http://makezine.com/2016/02/28/eben-upton-talks-about-the-new-raspberry-pi-3/ for more details.

Thanks for the answer. So I will have to create an additional MicroSD card with some 3rd party AArch64 GNU/Linux distribution that supports the RPi3 well, which will hopefully appear soon.

Congratulations for the new Pi 3.

Would also be good that Zero was sold by other sellers because the current sellers do not ship to all countries of Europe.

Not possible right now due to the limited profits the big resellers can make.

Hmmph.
When Acorn brought out their Archimedes I was just getting to grips with the BBC Master
When Acorn brought out their RiscPC I was just getting up to speed with the Archimedes.
The original Pi allowed me to almost catch up, with the B+ being not too far away in the distance.
Then 2 B, with its extra cores, disappeared over the Horizon (though the Zero was close enough to recognise, if only I could spot one)
Now, just when I thought there was hope for me, we get twice as many bits to play with. Effectively a whole new instruction set. Not just over the horizon, but on a whole new Planet!
Can you please slow down a little, let me catch up with at least the back of the queue?

Some of us are still plucking up the techno-courage to become a newbie: even that is daunting when you can only use written instructions, not videos.

From another over-50…

You will never catch up with the flow of devices, so don’t bother.

Think of a small pain point in your life that you think you could train a system like this to perform. The money you pay for any of these is so small, it pales compared to the learning you will be taking on to solve your problem. Don’t be daunted, dive in buy whatever is available now and make a start. Chances are pretty good anything you can buy will have sufficient grunt to do what you need.

When you have wrung all the learning out of the one you bought, sit back and consider whether you need to upgrade?

Wow, very nice. Love the idea of having wifi onboard. The lack of a gigabit NIC is a bit pain point however. Perhaps in the RP4?

IMHO you should consider the integration of Power over Enternet (PoE) technology in RPi. One Ethernet port sopporting PoE input would be extremely convenient. A second Ethernet port providing PoE output could be interesting too, but this second feature is not crucial. Currently RPi is limited to places where a electric socket is available. PoE would be great for many projects related to control or IoT where systems are located outdoor or in places where the electric power is not available.

Not possible in the price bracket I’m afraid, and so few people need it that it would increase the cost for a lot of people who have no need for it.

Not a problem at all!
Make custom Ethernet – Power cable. 4 wires should carry ethernet signal, the other 4 – power. End power wires with Micro-USB and ethernet with RJ45 socket. The other end should be connected to wall 5v power supply.

make that an 12V wall socket, and use a simple 12 to 5V power converter between the 12V and the 5V for the PI, and place it near the PI, at the end of the cable.

Powering the 5V through hundreds of meters of cable will drop too much voltage in the cable to work reliably, as such lengths of cable have too much resistance, several ohms in facts, and at 1Ampere one Ohm will drop one volt.
But I agree that POE is often over-engineered, and simpler solutions are possible.

Please create a high res poster with all the released hw revisions from the past 4 years. It would be nice to have all hw rev variants and color variants (green, blue, red) on the same big poster :)

I’m sure it won’t be too long until Alex Eames produces an updated version of http://raspi.tv/2015/raspberry-pi-zero-updated-pi-family-photo

yes, its here: http://raspi.tv/2016/raspberry-pi-family-photo-updated-to-include-pi3b-29-feb-2016

Congratulations to RPI! I have B+ and 2B, both of which are perfect! I want to buy a PiZero and 3 now! Where can I buy PiZero?

Happy birthday :) , but sad and disappointed with the Pi3 :(

I’m unable to use the new version as you’ve now integrated wifi and Bt.
Unfortunately wifi and Bt give me (and lots of others) severe headaches, and have made me ill for years, so the devices like the Pi and Odroid were a real bonus for me. As I used the Pi instead of a PC for a while it actually helped my condition improve (due to its very low EMR). I much prefer the Pi to the other similar devices I’ve tried, but I guess for future kit I’ll have go back to the Odroid and also find some alternatives (unless you also plan to make a Pi3 A or Zero without wifi/Bt. Pleeeease!)

btw: in case you are going to suggest it as an option, the linux / android code (currently) only disables wifi/Bt access, and does not actually turn the devices off. Something I confirmed by modifying a tablet (I initially added a physical switch, but since then I’ve removed the module completely).
When switch on and s/w enabled – headaches (power usage normal)
When switch on but s/w disabled – headaches (power usage about 5% lower than when enabled)
When switch off or removed – no headache (power usage ~7 to 11% lower than when enabled)
Of course power usage will vary depending upon what you are running during measurement, and whether using a module or a integrated chip, but these were just rough figures for my purpose at the time.

Now, if you were to modify the wifi/Bt Android base code so that it did actually turn it off, I’d be very happy to donate some money for the effort. :)

(and yes, phones are a major problem for me so an android code change would also be an amazing opportunity for people like me to possibly use android phones in the future!)

I live in hope.

You can turn Bluetooth and WiFi off – we’ll make sure there’s an easy interface for you to do that with in our next update.

thanks Liz. I’m very grateful for you trying and it would be fantastic if it worked.
No Android device yet turns it off due to the base code used, so it would have to be an addition to the standard wifi/Bt code.
I’ll buy one to try with the next release and will let you know how it goes.

:)

Sorry to hear that, Dave, and it’s the first I’ve ever heard of that, other than with implanted metal, embedded shrapnel, or electronic devices, but even then, WiFi, cell, and BT produce extremely low-power emanations (albeit, they are prohibited from Intensive Care Units – ICUs, just in case).

BTW, the Zero has no WiFi, BT, or any other high-speed interfaces beyond HDMI output and the GPIO interfaces, much to the consternation of some, so you can use that model without concern … assuming you can find one ;)

hi Jim. not sure why my earlier reply was not published, but no it’s not related to embedded metal.
More and more people are becoming sensitive to it, but there is a lack of awareness because some sites seem to remove or hide the comments from those that have direct experience of it. This means those sites directly add to the imbalance of opinion and knowledge slowing down the acceptance and understanding of the problem. Think about the way marketing caused people to ignore for decades the clear evidence of harm from cigarettes.
Anyway for those that want to know more google ‘EHS’ or ‘Electrical Hyper Sensitivity’ or ‘wifi headaches’.

it looks like my previous replies were too long for the site to handle as this published straight away.
thanks for the suggestion of the Zero. If I could find one I would buy one, but I’ll buy a few more Pi2’s if all else fails.

thanks for the concern.

Just out of curiosity, Dave – did you blind/double-blind those tests you did about how software/hardware switching the wireless off affects your headaches? It can make a big difference…

I’ll keep my reply short this time.
I did a lot of tests including buying an HTC, a Chat, a S5, a few tablets, & 5 almost identical Iphone 4’s.
I’ve tried 100’s of power & wifi apps but none turn wifi or Bt off on any of the android kit.
The Iphones with IOS v4.1 didn’t hurt my head, but when upgraded to v4.2 & above did, strongly suggesting that the way the code was implemented was the problem. I only have 1 iphone 4 with v4.1 now, but that is ok to use with wifi and Bt turned off.
BTW: flight mode doesn’t turn it off either.

Bluetooth and WiFi !!!
That is great news for domotique application.

When a Pi with Gigabit Ethernet and USB3 (or at less a better write/read speed for sd) ?

Anyway congrats. Now I am thinking to upgrade mine

Hello,

It’s my birthday today as well, and I’d love to have a new RPI to replace my rather old PI 1 mod B. But the only reseller I can find in France has quite high prices (nearly 50€). Where can I find a list of resellers with prices closer to those in GB or US ?

Buy from the UK, postage is cheap.

Congratulations.
This is a serios IoT thing .. a serious DIY.
I am sure this is going to open up all new era of remote devices (robots).

Thank you guys!!it’s BEAUTIFUL!!!!
I’m only hoping that oracle speed up the devs on a 64 bit optimized JVM with a good support for this new NEON hw…

Where is USB3 and/or Gbit LAN ?

There are alternatives if you need those facilities.

They’re on more expensive alternatives, where they belong. This is a $35 educational computer that, if it suits your needs as-is, then great. If not, a search engine is the feature you need first and foremost ;)

B+ price??

I have noticed that the B+ price here in Denmark has increased 25% (!!!) since Friday.

Is that due to production capacity, as mostly all capacity is used for the new model 3, or do we have to face a permanent price increase?

No idea why it’s gone up – there has been no price increase.

That’s odd.

It seems like RS and Farnell are playing their own game, which I see as destructive towards RPi.

Friday at RS the price for the B+ (in bulk) was 145 DKK, today it is 183,75 DKK, a price jump of 26,6%, similar to approx 21,39$/27,11$ (price excluding VAT!) – and remember that Denmark is within the EU, so there are no other taxes on a product manufactured in UK.

Not that 6$ is a big deal, but to me it seems unfair to the foundation that RS increases their profit so much, without the foundation benefiting from it all.

Please feel free to drop them an email and copy me in.

I got this answer from RS:

Thank you for your contact and communication. I apologize that our latest pricing implementation has caused you some frustration and concern.

The timing of the implementation is independent of the Ras Pi 3 launch but coincidentally happened over the same weekend.

RS manage the production of the Raspberry Pis and purchase based on volumes & component availability in the market.
We work hard to optimise costs but sometimes it is unavoidable to not be impacted to component & manufacturing costs.

The launch of the new Raspberry Pi 3 will see a big shift of volume & customer demand move to the new platform.
RS are committed to continue to manufacture & support the legacy products whilst there is sufficient demand & it is profitable to do so.

The Ras Pi A+ & B+ volumes are now much lower than those of the Ras Pi 3.
This results in component cost increases and we’ve had to pass these on.

There has also been an increase on our Price for Raspberry Pi 2. After Christmas, we had an excess stock & we wanted to reduce the price to move the inventory. This was on a special deal which expired on Monday.

Again, I’m sorry you felt compelled to write your feedback but I’m happy to discuss and take note of your feedback.

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This raises some questions, as RS claim they manage the production, but the foundation seems to be unaware of their price policy.

Hot can it then be that the price for the model 3 at the PiHut is nearly the same inclusive VAT as the price at RS exclusive VAT?

And is there a plan to discontinue the B+, or increase the price even more – this seems to me as a problem, as the B+ in many situations are better suited than the model3, especially due to the lower power consumption?

No, the headline price is meant to be $25. If you shop around you should find it at that price.

Here at Cotswold Raspberry Jam we have standardised on the B+ for our tutorial machines, and we have noticed that the B+ seems to have increased in price from £18 to £24 or more over the last six months. As we rely on donations to fund purchases, this represents a bit of a barrier. We’ve recently started buying “preloved” B+s, provided they have at least 3 months warranty.

As the Pi3 now includes WiFi (we are currently buying RT5370 USB WiFi dongles for £3), the price distinction between the B+ and the Pi 3 is erroding.

An interesting question will be whether the Pi 3 will work off the (supposedly) 2.1 amp USB-built-in-to-mains-wall-sockets that our venue, the University of Gloucestershire, has at every desk. If we have to buy separate 2.5 amp PSUs for each of our tutorial machines, then the pushes the price back out of our reach again. I’ve ordered a couple of Pi 3s this morning for personal use, and will pop along to the university sometime over the next fortnight to see if I get the rainbow square of brownout.

“An interesting question will be whether the Pi 3 will work off the (supposedly) 2.1 amp USB-built-in-to-mains-wall-sockets that our venue, the University of Gloucestershire, has at every desk.”

If you are not connecting to many peripherals to the USB ports you should be safe.

Imo 2,5A is wildly overestimated, as the model 3 draws around 0,6A when totally hammered.

My guess is that the 2,5A is stated out of experience that most Chinese psu’s typically delivers half of what’s printed on them, so better safe than sorry.

I am normally using a 0,5A high quality psu for my B+’s, and have faced no problems, even running 24/7.

I’ve been running my Pi3 off the same power supply as Pi2s since last August with no problems. I don’t hang a lot of USB off it though which obviously requires as YMMV qualifier.

Happy Birthday Raspberry Pi.

Congrats on the latest Pi ‘birth’ ;-)

simply amazing! Great work! Thanks and congratulations!What wonderful news to wake up to! :-)

Ram 2 Gb PLS

OK, I’ve read through this blog post three times and can not find where I can get it on sale. Please help…

Try the front page, RS, Farnell, Pi hut,Pimoroni, any of the usual stockists.

On sale here: http://uk.kano.me/products/kano-kit for UK only

Pi3 is £32, you charge more £88 for keyboard plus some little things?! You crazy! It is Leap Day, not April Fool day!

Well Done !! Ordered one :)

A pity the news leaked out a bit early.

As others it would be good to be able to switch off the WiFi and BT when not needed.

How can I Buy it? I want one…

From any of the usual Pi retailers.

Yes you’ve made changes over the years in models and their versions, but largely they’re still the same. You’ve been able to keep the best measure of backwards compatibility and show you are still committed to doing so.

The industry sat up and took notice within the first six months. I suspect they’re not missing this detail either. Whether its good design to begin with or a business attitude, I don’t know, but the success is deserved.

I order mine from Pi Hut @ 8.39 and my order number was 72761, my friend in the office just ordered one now and his order was 75723, so if orders are sequential in Pi Hut and if they were all v3 then they are going at nearly 1000/h

Ordered mine at 9:30 this morning.
Can’t wait to try it.

Congrats!

Looking forward to ordering one.

When will the Pi Zero backlog be cleared? :)

Ahh, but can it be overclocked…? ;-)

And Happy Birthday!

Great! Will get one of this.

Is the Raspbian come with the driver fro the WIFI and bluetooth? And is the WIFI and bluetooth always on?

Latest Raspbian has all the drivers, and there will be a way of turning them off if necessary.

Great! Thanks for your reply!

Nice! Will this have support for exfat for noobs?

great stuff, congratulations on the excellent work

although I have to say your selection of sales partners leaves a lot to be desired for us in Slovenia… some don’t ship to Slovenia, others only do business with companies, which usually requires jumping through hoops (again, Slovenia… even though it’s the EU), …
still haven’t been able to get my hands on a Zero, for crying out loud :D

;) still… thanks for your work and keep it up

Great news! 1 GiB RAM is a bit disappointing though.

As has been noted elsewhere, not only would that have increased cost (a big no-no for the intended educational market), it’s incompatible with the current GPU, and developing the next generation of the GPU is going to be quite expensive (in the high tens to low hundreds of millions of dollars), which means piggybacking on development of a next-generation GPU for a commercial product, most likely.

Congratulation to the 4th birthday and the new raspberry Pi.

Greetings from embeddedfruit.de

$35? No, almost $45 from CPC. Do you sell it cheaper in the USA?

My CPC catalogue came today in the post at around 9 a.m. The Pi 3 was on the front cover.

£26.38 ex-Vat but including postage. That suggests a selling price ex taxes, shipping, delivery etc. of around $35 as promised – in the UK at least.

A possibility to connect an antenna would be useful nevertheless: a metal-housing or usage in lower positions are impossible when wanting to use these features.

Of course we still can use external sticks – but then we waste these benefits.

adding an external WiFi antenna, when used with a metal case, is certainly possible. as discussed elsewhere in this blog.

Seems sad that not all retailers got a chance to stock these.

So sad that your resellers in Sweden sell this unit for 62-63 $. You should make a rule that stops this kind of over prices.

Here in Italy on rs-online.com, the price is 36€ without VAT …

Does it run Android? I know the previous RPi’s couldn’t run Android since there was some missing broadcom driver or something along that lines. So is that still an issue with the RPi 3?

Eben has been interviewed saying that Android 6 is well along being ported by a third party (who’s doing it on their own dime, AIUI) and the Pi 3’s hardware is up to snuff in supporting it if/when the port is completed.

Where you can buy Raspberry pi 3 shipping to Spain . And when a version with USB 3.0?

Hi, I have the original RPi (Pre-ordered and everything) but the idea to have wireless on board and bigger Amp specs gave me an itch to buy another :P

Anyone has any info on wifi speeds?

Are the USB ports able to sustain an external hdd?

Thanks

Wifi speeds, no official numbers, but anecdotally, as fast as a laptop.

Yes, it can drive an external HDD.

Nice Specs, but still no power switch, this not going in to the right direction.

https://www.google.de/search?q=steckdose+funk&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch

ordered and waiting for it :)

Got mine @ 1 PM, as soon as the shop unlocked the doors !

Cheers for the team

What about Model A+?

Model A+ continues to be the $20 entry-level Raspberry Pi for the time being. We do expect to produce a Raspberry Pi 3 Model A, with the Model A+ form factor, during 2016.

It means that you have plans to show other new model of Raspberry Pi 3 this year? Raspberry Pi 3 model B and Raspberry Pi 3 Model A early?

Yes – there will be a 3 A later in the year.

Puffff It’s impossible know if the next version will be show early or ending the year

It will get here when it gets here, as they all have, and the Pi 3B got here unexpectedly early since it’s only been 13 months since the last very substantial upgrade. And just where is your series of $35 SBCs that have sold over eight million in quantity over the last four years that have had legendary reliability and increasing performance? I didn’t think so …

This is a great leap forward! Thanks, and congratulations.

does it support bigger partition than 32 GB?

every PI does support >32GB SD-Cards if you use an image burner, or format it to FAT32 before putting NOOBS on it.
The real problem is that most formatters of not format >32GB as FAT, so you need to re-format them to FAT32, or the PI won’t boot with NOOBS.
When using an image writer like DD, putting Raspbian on a >32GB card there is no problem using >32GB cards, as imaging it “formats” the card to the required format as it writes the image.

In short >32GB cards are no problem!

Great job! The only worry is that according to CPC Farnell the retail price is the same as the wholesale price. I doesn’t help does it?

Just ordered the Pi 3 and looking for a new power supply with 2.5A. Any recommendations?

Relax. The Pi 2 is one hell of a machine. The performance increase from Pi 2 to Pi 3 exists but is nothing like the huge bump from the Pi 1 to the Pi 2.

Slap on a RT5730 USB WiFi module (<£5 from eBay) or the official RPi WiFi and you'll probably never notice.

That said, UK distance selling regulations do allow you to get a refund (but not postage) 14 days after you buy something over the web, providing you don't open the box.

Until now I was working with a 1.Gen Pi B. So the performance increase will hopefully be noticeable.

The Pi 3B should be at least ten times as fast as a first-gen Pi B, and possibly faster, depending on the software used. It will be a very noticeable difference! :D

The performance increase is insanse :D

What about HNP15-USB from watterott.com? 5Volts, 2.5 Amps, ships from Germany – and they still have Raspi3s on stock!

You will only need 2.5 amps if using a lot of high current USB devices and perhaps an LCD as well. Uses about 600mA as standard.

Hooray!!! Sadly I recently bought a pi 2 and now the pi 3 is out. Devistated!!!

Is the sale going to last a few days, or is it just for one day discount?

I am not entirely certain whether your question is serious, but at any rate, $35 is the regular list price (different meaning of “on sale”).

If you don’t need the wifi, perhaps consider the Odroid C2, quad Cortex A53, 2GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, quad USB 2.0. US$ 40+shipping.

For me the 1000 ethernet and 2GB RAM makes the Odroid C2 into a real computer, able to run workstation/mini server type loads, while 100 ethernet and 1GB RAM is too limited.

Odroid devices suck HARD. Good luck with the only kernel allowing the crappy MALI GPU to work, which is an old 3.4 frankenstein monster.
I won’t touch an Odroid (on any other board with MALI) with a 10 mts pole again in my life.

If 1GB isn’t enough, you need to write better software! You should be able to do the majority of computing tasks in 1GB. Network speed? Well, I’ve been living on 100baseT for 10 years, still no need to upgrade.

I would love to have an interface on which I could add very fast ramdrives (sata ?, usb c). USB 2.0 not very good for swap :( . Is a fast interface planned for Raspberry Pi 4, 5 … ?

@Liz Upton

I’m a little bit confused.
Is the GPU doubled and/or overclocked?

It’s clocked higher.

Just beicause I’ve ordered mine from modmypi, and they say:
“Gpu -Dual Core VideoCore IV® Multimedia Co-Processor. Provides Open GL ES 2.0, hardware-accelerated OpenVG, and 1080p30 H.264 high-profile decode”
So they migh misunderstood something…

VideoCore IV has always been “dual-core,” and it refers the multimedia processor (VPU) part. A different part of it is responsible for the 3D pipeline (QPU). They’re the same as before, except clock speeds.

Aha, thx. :)

There VC4 has a dual core scaler/vector unit which can also do 16 way SIMD processing (16 channels of data processed by one instruction). In addition, there are 12 Quad processors that run the 3D system and some other bits.

AWESOME!
Going to order one today!

Felicitaciones
Me ciento muy contento por el gran salto realizado en esta nueva edición, una recomendación podríamos llamar a las distintas versiones por algún nombre en vez de un simple numero? tal como sucede con el proyecto debian?

Happy Pi Day! \o/

I just ordered my Pi 3 from The Pi Hut and I’m looking forward to seeing it in action. :D Now back to the software side, I hope we’ll get some nice improvements on the open source graphics driver as soon as possible. :)

What is the future roadmap? I have 1x RPi1 and 2x RPi2. If you create a stronger RPi (8 core processor, 4GB of memory, maybe sata port), then I wait.

It will be at least another four years before you’ll see eight cores, 4 GBs of DRAM, and whatever else you’re dreaming of getting … for $35 (or less). So, in the meantime. invest in a Pi 3B and have fun enjoying the pretty amazing things it can already do!

Where did my comment go?

I’m not seeing it in spam or junk; are you sure you actually hit the “post” button?

I don’t yet see the Pi 3 listed on Allied’s website. Any idea when that partner will have it available?

Will the 7 inch touch screen work with this model?

Yes: everything is backwards compatible.

I have already bought my new Pi 3, but I can’t wait to know this: if I insert my Raspbian image from my Pi 2… will it be compatible with the new model? I know you recommend to upgrade and update it to get the new features and capabilities. But if I don’t do that… will it be straight compatible? Or will be strictly necessary to update? Thank you very much.

Yes, providing you update the image to the latest firmware released today.

I can’t wait to buy one. Only problem is the $Aud exchange rate is rubbish at the moment. I have a Pi-Top and RPi3 will make a big improvement and release 2 USB ports.

Great effort to Raspberry Pi. You folk really started a huge movement and everyone is copying you. It reminds me of the 1980s when IT was exciting and vibrant. Thank you all for bringing this to a new generation. :-)

Is the network card still on USB? Any support for WoL?

They say it’s your birthday… It’s my birthday too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS7s3Wq2ggk

Thank you for something new and shinny for my Birthday, although I am sure it’s not going to ship by my birthday next week. The only two things I lament are the people who are gonna complain that they just bought a Pi 2. Secondly, the bloatware people who will just use this as an excuse to waste and whine about the poor performance because it’s not a 8 core i7, instead of optimizing and making things better. Write for the original Pi, and watch it run! There was nothing wrong with the old Pi’s, once they fixed the power regulator. Now, there’s just more right! Right?
I love the 100Mb, 1G, MicroSD, USB2 awesomeness that is Pi. I am not sure people think about how complex and inaccessible you could make things by changing stuff too. 100Mb Ethernet was the last copper Ethernet you could easily mess with at the cable level. There’s something to think about there…

Happy birthday and thanks for your continued great work!

Order placed early this morning.

2.5 Amps is going to hurt this. You should put jumpers or switches to disable the Ethernet or wifi if possible. Anything to take the power down below 2 Amp unless your goal is to create a market for 3 Amp cell phone chargers…

The 2.5 Amps of suggested power is if you hang hungry USB devices off the four wonderful ports provided as well as run the poor little CPU at full tilt as well as the not-so-poor-little GPU (over 90% of the silicon die area of the SoC) at upwards of 40 million shaded polygons per second (aka “a lot of frickin’ polygons!”). If you’re just using it for run-of-the-mill desktop-oriented work, one of the existing 1 – 2 Amp power units (with a cable with thick enough wires that they don’t act like voltage-dropping resistors) that actually delivers that level of current will likely be just fine, again, as long as you’re not trying to use the fanciest backlit keyboard with a built-in USB hub, a self-heating sandwich, and motorized wheels :)

Jim, thin wire on the output of a 5 V PSU is not necessarily a problem. We came across this as a “problem” when changing connectors on some plug-in PSUs to use for a different application and they stopped regulating. i.e. the output voltage rose from 5 Vto 12 V. It happened on about 5 of them before we contacted the manufacturer and found out what caused it. They use what is know as a Kelvin connection to feed back the sample voltage to the regulator. In this case they used some very fine enamelled copper wire woven into the power conductors and we were just not heating it enough to burn off the self-fluxing coating. This allows for much greater volt drop in the cable without a volt-drop at the connector. Does this make sense to you? I hope it helps.

Surely the next logical step would be a Zero+, with wifi & Bluetooth. That would be better than a revised A, surely?

Anyway, I’ve ordered a Pi3 from CPC. Should be here shortly.

Not necessarily … and stop calling me “Shirley”!

Congrats on the new Pi!! I’m looking forward to playing with it. Will Docker be able to run on this ARMv8? As a side note, I really think Docker should come standard on Raspbian. Other future hopes would be seeing an ADC on the pi. Thanks again for all the hard work! :)

You certainly can run Docker on a Raspberry Pi.

http://blog.xebia.com/docker-on-a-raspberry-pi/

However, Docker images are architecture dependent – you can’t take an amd64 image and run it on your Pi, you have to rebuild them which limits the usefulness.

I run lxc on my Pi’s. The original 256MB can run 2 containers, B+ and zero run 3 no sweat, Pi 2 I manage 5 but they are not that loaded.

If you have IPv6 you can check https://www.saitan.eu

You have no idea how happy this comment makes me – more IPv6 only things.

see also the stats from the Pi3 serving the website,

http://stats.pi3.raspberrypi.org/

IPv6 only – we have no IPv4 at all in the hosting cloud

Where can I buy it in the US ,today?

Yes. I noticed that CanaKit here in the USA sports bare Raspberry Pi 3 Model B boards (no add-ons) as well as “Complete” and “Ultimate” starter kits equivalent to the RPi-2 prior kits with the same names. These are listed as being in stock right now (your results may vary) and no doubt a number of US vendors will post their products and prices within the week.

The CanaKit bare board sells for $49.95 right now (about $15 above MSRP), and the Complete and Starter kits are running $15 over the RPi2-based starter kits as well, but that is what you get if you want one right away on a seller’s market until more US vendors come out and announce their prices.

http://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-model-b.html
http://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-starter-kit.html
http://www.canakit.com/raspberry-pi-3-ultimate-kit.html

I just ordered two so I can use them as additional set top boxes. Having integrated wireless will make them easier to use than the Pi 2 I currently have on one of my TVs (running OpenElec/Kodi).

I received both of my Pi 3s on March 4, so quite pleased. Noticeably faster than the Pi 2 when running OpenElec/KODI. WiFi worked “out of the box” with OpenElec. Quite happy with my purchase.

Can I still use the same case as the Raspberry Pi 2 model B?

yes although the leds have moved it will still fit in a Pi2B case

Someone should update the FAQ:

> 3. WILL THERE EVER BE A BUILT IN WIFI OPTION?

> Unlikely. The SoC does not support native WiFi, and adding an > additional built in WiFi chip would greatly increase the cost > of the Raspberry Pi.

;)

FAQ stands for “Formerly Archived Questions”, not what you think it does :D

BAM!!! Built-in wifi at last!

Every place that has the Pi3 in stock is selling them for £30 which is 41 dollars in USD which is 56 dollars in CAD.
Guess I’ll have to save up some more. :(

Thanks so much. I had no idea this was coming. My son and I will be “upgrading” and my credit card will do its duty ordering TODAY! Thanks ever so much again to your entire organization and team in the UK!

I searched for Pi 3 sales in India. No stores shows the sales of Pi 3. When will the Pi 3 comes to sales in India?

I’m waiting for the product :)

Same here, eagerly waiting for it in India. I have cancelled my previous order for Raspberry Pi 2 Model B from Amazon.in.

This will drastically reduce the price to get started with a media center! Will any programs have to be ported to use the full functionality of the Pi3?

Where in the US can i buy it for $35??

https://www.mcmelectronics.com and search for stock number:

83-17300 – Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Board

or

http://www.newark.com/buy-raspberry-pi?ICID=I-HP-LB-feb16-raspberry-pi3

Uhm this is great, but why is there *STILL* no gigabit LAN, and why only 1GB RAM, still, especially when you look at the specs of the Odroid C2 etc? This seems rather short-sighted.

Onboard eMMC or SSD would have been nice, too, but not as vital.

All of that would be nice, but you wouldn’t be getting any of it, let alone all of it, for $35, especially when you look at the price of the Odroid C2, etc. – that seems rather myopic. The Pi is designed for students, parents, and teachers in the education market, where price is everything, and if you happen to be able to also make use of it, that’s great. It’s not meant to satisfy every whim of each individual who has their very own wishlist of features that, in many cases, are never really used to their full capability. If you need niche capabilities relative to a rock-bottom-cost SBC developed for the huddled masses, go look in niche market segments and be prepared to pay niche market prices.

Wrong – the Pi is for anyone that buys it, and if it STILL hasn’t got specs of competing products, people will use competing products instead. Not having Gigabit and not having more RAM is just inexcusable, unless you’re a foundation that doesn’t ever want to escape from it’s safe little comfort zone and be taken seriously?

Did you never consider Apple, and how they were bold enough to add HEADLINE hardware specs and new features, when every other vendor was afraid of doing something “unknown”?

It’s time to be BOLD, or to be forever thought of as “The nerdy foundation board with it’s ‘safe’ specifications, and nothing to write home about”

Simple really, when you stop being an apologist long enough to think DEEPLY about its’ future.

Rubbish. By the Foundation charter, the Pi is designed for education, but of course, other people can buy them. Going to gig ethernet and adding RAM would take the price over $35, which is the upper limit. I’m sure that over time prices will drop enough to make them both possible, but right now, the SoC cannot address more than 1GB, and all ethernet traffic goes via a USB2 port, so gig ethernet is a pipedream. So to fix those two requires a completely new SoC, which means no backwards compatibility, and a complete loss of all the work that’s gone in to the present ecosystem.. Which would be inexcusable. So, who is thinking about the future now? It seems the Foundation has thought about this more deeply than you have.

Do not forget why you want to have all of this in a Pi. You buy not only the hardware. You buy long time support and a huge user base. So you can find a solution for most of your problems by typing it into a search engine. And a lot of these solutions are beginners friendly.

If you can solve your problems with some specs and high level answers, other boards my suit you better.

But even if you are skilled enough, you may run into problems with expensive documentations and NDAs. Sadly you cannot get around the patent problem. So we have to live with some limitations, if we like to have a system which is as open as possible. 4GB DDR4 would be faster, but if the GPU can’t handle it, we will not get it.

The computer history is full of strange solutions to work around the memory problem. Something like bank switching has to be done by the foundation. You can build a memory hat and write a block device driver, so that it can be mounted for tmp and swap. Not the best solution? Only an evil hack? Yes indeed. But the PCs had to live with such workarounds in their youth and even today, if you have to run 32Bit XP with more than 4GB RAM.

I will need more RAM as well :(

Let me be the first, who complains about the data bus. Am I right, that it is still 32Bit? So Eben will be right, that a 64Bit raspbian will noy increase the performance?

@Foundation: Can we get a brief description of the new hardware architecture, please? This will be a great easter gift for your grown up customers :-) It will be nice to understand the hardware limitations.

It’s a full 64bit machine. AT the moment, though, the supplied Raspbian is still 32bit. There will be some performance improvements going to 64bit, but there are very extensive support costs associated, and the problem that there OS is not backwards compatible with earlier Pi’s

Over FIVE MILLION Raspberry Pi’s have been sold – how many Odroid’s have been sold? I can GUARANTEE YOU that Hardkernel will NEVER REACH the numbers that Raspberry Pi has.

The sales numbers PROVE that Raspberry Pi is EXACTLY what the majority of people want.

If you are so displeased with the Raspberry Pi, then why are you on here whining instead of celebrating over at Hardkernel?

Where in Europe can I buy it for $35???

I must say I am a bit disappointed. I was hoping the new model 3 would include a gigabit ethernet port and a sata port. These two features are the main two advantages competition has over RaspberryPi. It is unfortunate that this new model doesnt address these points.

Besides that, its good to have a 64bit processor and wireless. Good job (well, kind of) !

Will an RPI 3 fit into a RPI 2 case?

yes although the leds might not show properly but it will fit

Its really wonderful news .. Thanks for your hard work :D

Can we still use the Raspberry Pi 2B cases with Raspberry Pi 3B

How many layers does the PCB have?

Where can I buy it for $35 in Europe??? Mostly 30£ in Europe???
Buying 35 USD you pay 32.2175 EUR
Buying 30 GBP you pay 38.4854 EUR???

Congrats!!!

Good news

Happy birthday

Also if the trend continues, the next generation(s) of PI’s
will probably match the speed of Intel desktops.

3.4GHZ quad/six cores (drum rolls) the gap is closing :)

Not really. Intel is CISC while ARM is RISC.
Intel do more at each clock. It is approximately 4 times faster than an ARM processor with the same clock.

Well …

That would probably be good enough for en entry level PC.

Add the 64 bits support on top?

Maybe then MAYBE, games manufacturers will embark also.

That would be a nice sight in a game prerequisites:

HALO minimum requirements:
PC 1.2ghz 1GB ram wind….
Raspberry PI 3 and up, 1.2GHZ, Raspbian…

“Also if the trend continues, the next generation(s) of PI’s
will probably match the speed of Intel desktops.”

it doesn’t need to match intel desktops, for most people it should simply be good enough.

And arguably the new PI 3 B is already good enough for normal desktop use, for example internet browsing now really is good enough, as is using office software and e-mail.

The new A53 CPU also offers al lot of possibilities for further optimizations, for example the better NEON multimedia instructions, and better floating point instructions, and of course 64-bit instructions, can all be used to make current software even faster.

I want to buy the Raspberry Pi 3 to make it a media player for all video files with a lot of settings simply put any video files and play it at my tv.

Can i do that? And if i can how i can do that exactly?

It is only one time programming or you can programming a lot of times?

How i can find out what is the procedure for programming this product?

And how i can buy it at europe i live?

A lot of thanks for your time and your answers.

Older Pi’s have been used for media centres for the last 4 years – there is LOTS of stuff out there on the net. Google it. Kodi on Pi would be a good start.

I run OpenElec on a Pi2 which is essentially KODI, but there are other solutions as well. It’s easy to install from NOOBS, so anyone can get it up and running with minimal effort (just follow the NOOBS tutorial on this site).

KODI runs quite well on my Pi 2. That said, I just ordered two Pi 3’s to use for this purpose since the built in wireless and Bluetooth should prove useful. In particular, I’m looking forward to using KODI in areas of my house that don’t have any Ethernet cables running to them.

Congratulations on the Pi3…

I’m slightly surprised at one aspect of the changes, however, which is the lack of Gigabit Ethernet. I see you’ve improved wireless networking, but this still won’t come close to the range or performance of cabled Gigabit. Is there a way you would like us to request future enhancements? Could we get some momentum behind Gigabit please?

I cannot believe the number of people who have asked for Gig ethernet. I wonder if these people actually get anywhere close to using the capacity of a gig link. I still use 100 with no problems at all.

There is a HW limitation on the SoC’s that means even if you added a gig chip, the top speed would still be pretty close to 100baseT anyway, so that’s a reason why not. The other is cost.

I used to use my Pi as a media streamer. It worked brilliantly for that, but copying a 25GB Blu-Ray from my Windows machine (which has the Blu-Ray drive in it) up to the Pi can take a while (not an excessive period of time though).

Transfer rates were around 10 – 12 MB/sec (around 80 – 96 Mbit/sec). Pretty decent going, considering the Pi was taking the data in through the USB2 ethernet adapter, then pushing it back out the USB2 bus to my external USB hard drive.

The file transfer rate wasn’t why I shifted away from using the Pi as a streamer – it was the inability to transcode video. I now use an Intel NUC – great device, but the price difference is huge. My two Pi2s now run a Samba4 Active Directory, a Squid proxy, a Horde groupware mailbox instance, a Cacti network polling/graphing instance, a DHCP service, DNS services, a Prosody IM service, and a Crashplan incremental network backup service. I only really need one Pi for all that but they act as primary and failover for everything except Horde, Prosody and Cacti.

I personally don’t see the need. I “only” have 60 Mbps Internet service, so not needed for that. Also, I stream video from my file server to a Pi 2 running KODI and am able to watch .iso files ripped from DVDs without any trouble at all. Why do you “need” gigabit Ethernet?!?1?

Nice but disappointing that you don’t pay attention to the sound quality. I was hoping for an improved DAC.

There is a software improvement under testing that dramatically improves the sound quality over the analogue port.

Cool. If helpful, I’m happy to be a tester. I published plans for a Pi-based music player for people with dementia. And it would be helpful to not require the USB audio adapter. http://dqmusicbox.com/

You probably want to have a look at the “Advanced users” section in the forums …

I’m not sure about your use case though (powering big(ger) headphones) – if I remember correctly that wasn’t exactly the Pi’s strength and probably still won’t be with the new driver (I’d be more than happy to be corrected though).

Cool, thanks very much for the tip Jeff. I found what you were referring to and will try it this weekend. BTW, from my earlier testing, a Pi 2 was able to drive the two types of over-the-ear headphones that I have.

My Pi zero has just arrived, oh well better get back to ordering another pi :-D

Congrats!!! Future release wish list. USB 3.0 or SATA and 4GB ram. Reason, that would be a great board for a real desktop replacement!! However, I do understand the cost ramifications of that and hopefully you can still do that with a price point of $35 in the near future.

Congratulations on completing your fourth solar orbit Raspberry Pi! And Welcome RPi3!! :-) I’d like to get to know you.

I bet the BBC Micro engineers are delighted by the Pi 3. Their legacy lives on! Quite an improvement from a 2 MHz cpu and 16k of RAM. The next Pi should have a cassette interface! ;) Congrats and have a very happy birthday!

When will be 64 bit Raspbian available?
P.S. good job

I don’t get why someone still want to buy a Pi2 when Pi3 have more specs and same price.

Eben agrees, see/read his interviews at:

http://thepipodcast.com/the-pi-podcast-16-raspberry-pi-3-special-with-eben-upton

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/raspberry-pi-3-the-inside-story-from-the-new-35-computers-creator

The Pi 2 still lower power requirements – so that might be something somehow might consider ? It might be better if the different models were slightly differently price-differentiated I guess ? (But then: does it cost them the same to make a Pi 2 as a Pi 3 ?)

OHHHHHHHH … EMMMMMMMMM … GEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

They’ve done it again, folks, but this time, they’ve REALLY done it! WiFi!! Bluetooth!!! Boot from USB HDD/SSD or Ethernet PXE!!! 100,000 boards a week of manufacturing capacity – no wonder there have hardly been any Zeroes available!

And now the waiting begins … Christmas strikes again, and again, and again …

BRAVO ZULU TO THE ENTIRE TEAM!!!

I beg your pardon, but where is USB Boot documented? I mean, without firmware blob on SD?

(Got mine today. Hooray!)

I don’t think it is documented yet, although apparently it can do it, along with PXE boot.

I think that with this model 3, you have come so close. If you would add a bottle opener, a serrated-blade knife, screwdrivers (slotted and phillips), and a belt clip, you’d have something that people would buy. I see it already has holes to add it to a key-ring, but I prefer to use a belt-clip. Then a version with a laser pointer and a true RS-232 serial port (either DB-25 or DE-9). Maybe a paper-tape reader/punch.

Thank you.

And many congratulations.

LoL

Spot on, spot on….

Someone already mentioned the missing cassette tape interface for “high-fidelity” storage :D

Actually, with the headphone jack and adding a USB mike interface, it would be a “small matter of programming” to create a cassette tape interface … for saving very small programs ;)

Feliz Cumpleaños.
I’m sure Raspberry Pi 3 it is a great addition for DYI projects.

When I saw this article I literally face palmed. I thought to myself “Crap now I HAVE to buy that one too”. But seriously this is awesome.

Manufactured in UK ?

Yes

All we need is gigabit ethernet!

No, all you need is love … John and Yoko said so. I think Paul, George, and Ringo were in favor of that, too :D

What is max usb current per port and at all? Will it finally handle usb hdd? PiB, Pi2B were not able and that was fatal design flaw.

That’s not the case – I use a USB attached HD drive on a Pi2. The Pi3 will also be able to do it. Have you increased the USB current in config.txt? See forum or google for more information.

All my 2,5″ hdd drives were not able to work with my previous Pi’s. Motor was ticking and was unable to start up even with 5V 20W power supply. Currently my pi is powered by 100W 5V PSU together with 2,5m ws2812b led strand. I edited config.txt but even those none of my hdd’s was able to start up.

I hope that is fixed in this device. Will see as soon as thePuiHut send this device to me.

All mine work fine. You MUST set the usb_max_current=1 (? I think that right) in config.txt or they will tick. Check out the forums, and ask for help there, better than here.

usb drive with external psu was always supported ( and a lot faster ). I still use such a configuration on my original B model.

Just ordered my RPi 3. Kudos to the team. Quick question. Does the onboard wi-fi support P2P (WiFi-Direct?)

Thank you

Ordering from MCM Electronics seems to be impossible – even when the pages load (which they often don’t), entering shipping, billing info etc. and placing the order brings you to a large product list, NOT a confirmation that the order went through. I have no idea if I ordered it or not!

I ordered one this morning from MCM but had a hell of a time getting through fora while.

Same experience here with MCM Electronics. But going back, logging in and selecting “My Account” does show it (Order status: “New Order”). No email from them yet.

This is wonderful news!
Amazing work guys!!

Is it possible to use the the built-in wifi as an access point?

I would also like to know this

so would I

Is there a 64-bit version of Raspian?

Not yet, but there is a feasibility plan in place.

Hey Texy! Your touchscreen is still in daily use!

I think that’s why the U.S. Presidential campaign is all in knots … too many “feasibility plans” and not enough “Git ‘Er Dones” :D

Glad to hear it Jim.

Texy

This has some great knock-on effects I think – like potentially freeing up all 4 USB sockets (now that you should be able to attach bluetooth keyboard/mouse and no need for a WIFI dongle)

Also: It’s great knowing that Bluetooth Classic and Bluetooth LE (aka ‘smart’ , aka ‘4.x’…) is just there: I hope that will assist the Linux dev community with the further development of the Linux Bluetooth Stack (which is cool already, but a bit patchy in my [limited] experience).

And when the Model-A 3 comes out : that will be so much easier to get going (currently I find you tend to have to swap in and out Wifi Dongles and USB->Serial Connectors in order to build a system and then deploy it) : when you can already connect up a keyboard /mouse/network without using up the USB slot – that will be a huge improvement !

Nice one Raspberry Pi – Happy 4th / 1st Birthday !

About Memory, RAM and the poor CPU….

The Orange Pi Plus has 2GB on an A20 Arm and is R-Pi Compatible, where you can take the SD Card out of the R-Pi and put it into the O-Pi+2 and it will boot, unlike the Banana Pi which needs modification to the boot sequence code for it to boot. Don’t tell me that it can’t because it can and has been done with the O-Pi.

I’m not saying that the O-Pi is better, I’m just saying that it exists. And a lot of these Arm CPUs are used in Android Tablets and many of them are in the 4GB to 16GB RAM (for the high end models) sizes. A fast CPU is great. A Multi-Core CPU is even better, but if your system is taxing its RAM then it slows down like a snail with asthma.

There is a program I been wanting to run on the R-Pi. It’s called SweetHome3D. It is a Java Program that is a basic and simple CAD system for house design. It can run on a 1GB system that has Java on it (including a few compiled parts to it), but when you place starts to get complicated, it slows down. I run it on my 1.5GB PowerBook G4, and, 2GB Mac Mini (DuoCore intel) and 4GB ThinkPad (also a DuoCore). The program (SH3D) will slow down on the small RAM Footprint systems but continues to run fast with on the large RAM System. Thus would be a problem on the R-Pi with 1GB. I spoke to the Author of SH3D and he said that it would not be possible to run SH3D on an R-Pi because 1GB is not enough. Thing is, some people compiled the program to run on other ARM (Android Tablet) Systems with 2 – 8GB and it runs great on them.

The R-Pi 3 looks like a great machine. But to me it looks like they are only trying to keep up with the competition. When the R-Pi came out, it set a standard. When the Banana Pi came out, it had a Dual Core CPU and 1GB of RAM. The R-Pi came out with a Quad Core Version with 1GB of RAM soon after. Many others came out with 64 bits, built-in Wifi and Blue Tooth. Now the R-Pi3 has 64bits, built wifi and blue tooth. Playing catch up with the competition is not the way to run a computer business. The R-Pi is an excellent device. It should be setting the standard, not catching up with others as I see it. Since the release of the Model B – I have collected over 20 R-Pi units, and I like them and use them all!

Why use a Mastodon of a tower PC when I can use a cigarette box sized computer that has the same power to do the same tasks?

Note, that all Pi’s are backwards compatible. This means there are limited choices in CPU, memory capacity etc. But its well worth the hit to keep a steady upgrade path, especially when you are talking education.

Does that mean, that I can be 100% certain that a binary compiled on the model 3 still can run on a model B+ ?

That will depend on whether you set any compiler switches that mean the code is specific to the core on a particular model. By default , it will work.

The Cortex-A53 is still faster than Cortex-A7, even in 32-bit mode. So it’s a logical ‘small’ improvement. Pop out the old core and stick a more recent one in without having to change much else. The fact that it also has a 64-bit mode means there’s an option later to go to 64-bit, and people can experiment with 64-bit before then (without having to buy an iPhone!).

Keep in mind that work on this model didn’t start when some other fruit-flavored manglings of the ratio of the diameter to the circumference of a circle were _announced_ (many of which still have yet to ship to a real customer, BTW). This has probably been in gestation for I’d guess a couple of years, even long before the Pi 2B was released into The Wild. The feature set is a natural progression of things that the Foundation has certainly wanted, let alone the millions of Raspberry Pi fans Out There. Also, this is a non-profit/charity organization that doesn’t have unlimited use of the resources of a publicly-traded corporation the size of Broadcom (although I would certainly maximize whatever use of them I was allowed to access :) Then there’s risk – that four-letter word that “armchair engineers” never have to worry about while they’re tsk-tsking about whatever their favorite flavors of features haven’t been addressed to their expected sandwiches and wheels level.

If you look reeeeally closely at “the competition”, there really is nothing of the sort, and I mean well beyond mere hardware. It never ceases to amaze me how many people aren’t aware of Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) cofounder and CEO Ken Olsen’s statement, as an electrical engineer, that he didn’t know anything about software, except that it sold hardware. The same can be said about support and the community surrounding a product, and in that, no one comes within a femtometer of that which exists for the Raspberry Pi. Heck, it’s not so much a community as a family, with all of the celebrations, fisticuffs-angry arguments, and all of the other hoo-hah that families exhibit, including downright love for the products and the people responsible for delivering these little bundles of joy. Where is the school marm on the educational team at ameriDroid? What about Jason Statham heading up the whole shebang as a night job at PINE64 between making movies? Does anyone know anything about anybody wherever the Banana Pi, Orange Pi, Lemon Pi, Roseapple Pi, or any of those other shadowy products are made, let alone supported?

I’d say it’s quite the other way around as to who’s lagging whom – there’s a heck of a lot more to a Pi than a fruity name, a fancy-looking spec sheet, and Kickstarter campaigns that often disappoint much more often than they satisfy, let alone are responsible for orgasms of child-like glee and wonder, not experienced since that very first Christmas with all of those shiny presents lying under a tree overburdened with glittering lights, ornaments, and tinsel.

A reporter during WW-II wondered aloud, having just witnessed the taking of an objective by Allied forces under extreme resistance and heavy losses, “Where do we find such men?” A general next to him said, “I don’t know, but they seem to find us and just do what needs to be done right when the worse has come to the worst.” So it is with the unsung ladies and gentlemen heroes of the Raspberry Pi Foundation – we cannot possibly thank them enough and should never look such a gift horse in the mouth for want of trinkets like gigabit Ethernet, SATA ports, or more DRAM.

They’re making amazing progress, considering that very few outside The Community thought that they would ever deliver the first 10,000 256 MB Model B Pii, and that there are over eight million of nearly all much-better models Out There now … ? Do you have any idea what you’re complaining about? I suppose you would have written off controlled, powered flight based on the early airplanes because of their annoying noise, abysmal speed, and lousy fuel economy!

What about overclocking? I’ve just had a look and it says “Not available”. It’s not that I need to overclock but I’m just curious.

Andy

Happy Birthday and thanks for making the Raspberry Pi line better and better. All of your hard work is appreciated. I order my Pi 3 but it shows a ship date of March 8. Hard too wait. I feel like a kid waiting for Xmas to come around.

Congratulations on 4 years of awesomeness – forever grateful for leading me down the rabbit hole . . .

I got the email from Pihut at the start of a 2 hours (either way) trip to a 10 hour shift. BOUGHT IT STRAIGHT AWAY. Nice bit of news but my next few shifts are going to drag waiting for it :)

Still, I can play with my Zero till then – once it’s finished rendering the Blender BMW27 model. 36 hours estimated this morning so still awhile till I can play with that.

Ah well, I can always occupy myself trying to get blender to run headless on the model B rev 1 – futile maybe but at least it’ll distract me for a while.

Definitely the wifi and processor speed upgrades are welcome. Would a 64 bit install give a speed boost over a 32 bit install?

did you guys move the process to 28nm? Google search says A53 requires at least 28nm process

No, 40nm.

ARM don’t specify the node required, just quote performance at the node that most people use.

Thanks for replay. I understand that it’s probably due to compatibility consideration, but still kind of frustrated, as benchmarks reveal pi3 really runs hot.

Cost reasons really – the move to 28mnm would require a LOT of work, it’s not just a ‘change that number to 28’ job.

Sorry I’m kind of confused. As bcm2835 exist before the launch of original pi and other vendor(Roku) also used it, I was assuming that broadcom is the primary designer of SoC. But now it seems like you’re implying it’s the foundation designed the SoC. Originally I thought it would be an easy job as Broadcom such a large ARM processor Manufacturer should’ve already purchased the reference design from ARM and mastered the really old 28 nm process.

lilunxm12, first off in case you did not know or just simply forgot, but Eben and several of the Foundation engineers are EX-Broadcom who did work on parts of the original chip. Then later continued to be paid by the Foundation even after the original SOC to to work directly with Broadcom people to design the Pi2 BCM2836 and now the latest Pi3 BCM2837. Also it was Eben who famously using his good looks convinced the Broadcom powers that be at the time to slap on a cheapo ARM cpu alongside the VC4 for his own nefarious purposes so he could later hijack it from primarily being used as media chip into a general purpose processor unit. So in essence the people at the Foundation has had very a deep hand in development of the SOC.

But the other statement regarding Broadcom having the expertise to do 28nm does not mean they, as a business, will give it away for free as seem to be implied, even with good relations between Eben and Broadcom. Especially since Broadcom has already abandoned the SOC for public commercialization it will take more than just a simple “Pretty Please” to convince them to reallocate the necessary equipment, resources, and certification testings needed to change from 40nm that had been set up to get to 28nm process. With the Foundation being pretty much the sole channel for the chips now, it would have to be the Foundation footing that bill. The Foundation is lucky enough as it is due to the standing relationship, that Broadcom even allows them to continue extending the BCM2835 way past its intended shelf life.

Close (are you also ex-Broadcom?) – but I’d point out that we are not the only (or the largest) customer for 2835, and it’s not been abandoned by Broadcom.

We don’t get kickbacks or subsidies from Broadcom. Our relation with them is a normal, commercial relationship: we buy chips from them on the same basis as other customers.

Also, we don’t think Eben’s *that* handsome.

where can i buy this??

Hello from Germany,

Yeah, the Raspberry Pi 3 with wireless connection is just awesome! Congratulations to the 4th birthday :)

Will Mathematica still be bundled for free with RPi 3?

Yes.

Got three on their way already – although slight correction to the article – it is actually Raspberry Pi’s first birthday…. for the pedantic, anyway ;-)

This looks like a lot of fun! I think they missed out on a great name. I should be called the Pi 3.14…Ha!

This is a good move for the Raspberry PI foundation, these new additions should have been on the PI 2.
For the PI 3, is is shameful not to see a USB C port for power at the very least, 2.5A is quite a lot of power on the Micro USB port

“Friction fit” micro SD card slot [1]? Noooo :(
The previous push-based one was perfect. No need for the card to protrude from cases and you actually knew the card was slotted in properly after the click (unlike with the RasPi 1 for example).

You even acknowledged yourselves that the push-based one was better:
“Micro SD. The old friction-fit SD card socket has been replaced with a much nicer push-push micro SD version.” [2]

(I don’t really buy the argument from the video – why would you grab the Pi exactly where the SD card slot sits and then also clench it that hard as to accidentally remove the SD card? And even repeatedly?)

Please reconsider this for further updates. Thank you very much.

[1]: https://youtu.be/wTTa-24whdw?t=1m46s
[2]: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/introducing-raspberry-pi-model-b-plus/

Actually, we had a LOT of complaints about the clicky SD cards. A lot (an awful lot) of people found that when handling their Pis they’d accidentally pop the SD card out – often while they were writing, so causing corruption. Because for so many people the Pi is something they put inside projects and handle a lot, it was a significant problem, hence the change. (Full admission – we didn’t foresee that problem either.)

Agreed; another thing with the ‘click-fits’ if the spring mechanism breaks (very easy to do – especially for kids) you are left with a slot which will not keep the card in place at all ; so I think a friction-fit is better actually.

OK – still not happy about it personally, but thanks for listening to peoples’ input and thanks for the background information :)

Another question: what are the reasons the FM receiver is “unused” [1]? Legal reasons/potential additional fees? No room for wiring/an antenna connector (maybe a headphone cable could be used with the existing connector as it’s done with phones)?

By the way: don’t get a wrong impression – I love the Pi project and you’re doing great :)

[1] https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-3-specs-benchmarks/

I think there were also horror stories about cards springing out of slot in open area and never found again :-)

Anyone wants to try how far the slot can shoot the card when ‘properly’ handled? Could be good competition :-)

Personally I don’t really like cheap friction-fit slots either :( it’s a pity that you changed that, on the Pi2 it was a really nice spring loaded slot, allowing to easily change cards even with the Pi installed on cases with just the card hole and all the card inside… I will really miss it as I often change cards (and never did break it) :(

Btw, also concerning wifi, hope that the “micro small antenna” will do some magic and have a decent wifi performance (else just an rp-sma connector to connect a cheap but good external antenna would be a much better choice IMO), I will wait reviews about that before ordering… if poor wifi then maybe I should wait for Pi5.

As someone who has had a Pi rendered useless by an expensive spring-eject SD card slot that failed, I like cheap friction-fit slots. The change was made for reliability, not for reasons of cost (although that helps).

Just that different SD card slot makes a Pi 3 better than a Pi 2. I have lots of problems now with my Pi 2 card slot.

My sentiments exactly. Everything was an upgrade save for the card slot. Yay to new Raspi 3 :), BOO! to friction fit SDcard slot >:’-(. I now have to carry around a pair of tweezers just to change the SD cards when the Pis are in their PiBow cases.

the simple solution is to modify the cases, so it becomes easy to extract the card. Such modifications will be implemented quickly, especially by pibow.

How fast is the on-board Wi-Fi?

As fast as the slowest link in a 2.4GHz 802.11n network…..

It is a dual band device (1×1:1), so the max speed should be 150 Mbps on 40 Mhz wide channel.
Is the SDIO port (or anything else) a bottleneck achieving this speed?

Shut up and take my money!

Still can’t find a Pi Zero for sale. How long till I can get my hands on one of these?

Some interesting and not (yet) well reported features are interesting (and hopefully true): ability to boot over Ethernet PXE, and ability to boot from a USB device.

I already use a Pi 2 as a desktop machine; have ordered a PI 3 as an upgrade to this.

Network boot…mmhh that would be new for the Pi – that would be interesting if that becomes possible now…

Congratulations and happy birthday!

Does anyone know of any news about hardware acceleration available for video playback applications (mplayer)?

Hi,

while typing this, you forced me to order a Pi3 ;)

I thought you may stay with the GPU and add more memory by using the sd-io interface for a volatile fast RAM disk, istead of the WiFi or you may have an additional spare lane. Many people mount /tmp, /var/[tmp|log] on a tmpfs to bypass slow sd cards. A dedicated RAM may be a nice compromise and may be more secure. I think that the last big dist-upgrade killed my system because tmp was too small.

But than I suddenly read the most important improvement of the Pi3. It can now boot from a fast USB device. I will give it a try, even if my project has to deal with vibration and glued SD card with a RAM disk will be the better solution.

party on!

The only joy to be found at secondary school was outside the classroom (playing sport). Passive, boring lessons given by “painting-by-numbers” pedagogues were something to be endured rather than enjoyed … then a magical thing happened:-

I discovered the BBC Micro in Computer Science class and was instantly captivated by it. I was permitted to stay behind after the school day had finished (thanks to a kindly Computer Science teacher) so I could explore the Beeb and write my own BASIC programs. I soon wanted my own BBC Micro (like Eben) – but its staggeringly high price made it as unobtainable as a trip to the Moon.

A combination of unlikely events colluded to provide me with my first home computer. I was extremely fortunate to become the owner of an Acorn Electron (the little brother of the BBC Micro). The Electron lacked the Beeb’s teletext-like Mode 7, dedicated graphics chippery and a host of useful ports – but it had BBC BASIC and an awesome Assembler. Most of the software available for the Beeb was ported to the humble Electron. I loved playing games (like Repton and Elite); but it was the facility to create my own software that had the greatest impact on me.

It’s no overstatement to write that the Electron revolutionised my intellectual development at a critical age. I developed new skills like problem solving, creative and logical thinking. I also discovered that I had an uncanny ability to determine what was stopping faulty code from running correctly (and correct it).

Computer programming made me think of the English language in a new and positive way (my reading and writing skills were remedial for much of my childhood and I hated English lessons). Text adventure games stimulated my imagination and transported me into magical worlds. Reading developed into a pleasurable activity and opened up an exciting world of literature that enriched my soul. Poems were now viewed as “extremely optimised code” to be executed on the cognitive computer inside my head.

Those Acorn 8-bit computers (and their attendant magazines) were the greatest teachers I ever had. They engaged, inspired and excited me in equal measure. They opened up new avenues of intellectual adventure.

The thought of a 12 year-old child discovering programming on Raspberry Pi (with its advanced software, hardware and operating systems) and starting down that path of intellectual development gives me a warm glow inside….

I consider myself blessed to have watched your journey from tentative beginnings to today’s majestic new computer launch.

Everyone’s first computer has a special place within their heart. I feel the same way about all your Raspberry Pi computers. Keep creating the magic, guys!

> The thought of a 12 year-old child discovering programming on Raspberry Pi (with its advanced software, hardware and operating systems) and starting down that path of intellectual development gives me a warm glow inside….

Yes, the gold old days. The new ones are far more improved. Children can now build “intelligent” robots like in Star Wars. When I watched this scene as a student, I thought this is pure science fiction. Something I will never see during my lifetime. Today not even the universe is the limit ;-)

But one thing is still the same. Our Home-Computers were not simply a thing. They had a soul. They had a soul because they were incomplete like us. We had to invest a lot of work, even if we were focused on playing games. With each reset button or printer cable we soldered, it became a part of us or started to develop its own mind. Bagging for attention with heat problems, loose cables or tape heads out of tune.

When we had to move to PCs they lost their soul and became things soon. We bought computer parts in a super market, plugged ready to use parts into it and used it as a tool.

The Pi compared to our old 8 or 16/32 Bit machines seems to have no limits. But there they are. The same limitation as in out youth. You need a RTC, camera, … ? Then you have to find your own solutions to build your own personal companion. Change the case, find a way how everything can be used at the same time and will not look like a huge mess. We old ones have a smile on our face while walking through this time tunnel. Children may find the soul we are seeking. The grown ups, who are too young for the good old time, do not notice that they life our youth when they fight our old flamewars about graphics and sound again.

Only one thing changed. Instead of neglecting my duty to learn by playing MUDs, i neglect my work by watching lectures about robotics on YouTube ;-)

Congratulations. This is fantastic. A good thing that raspberry pi releases seems to sync with my own birthday more or less, I always know what to ask for.

Not bad … for the money, but it still won’t beat my clapped out, clanking old AMD Athlon on any meaningful benchmarks.

It will beat it on power consumption per benchmark…..

ALthough really not sure what the point of your post was.

Meaning that the “10 times faster” hype is actually ten times a very small number. I like the Pi (own several) by I’m just not a fanboy.

Er, no not really. When compared with a VAX11/780, a BBC Micro, an Intel Pentium 4, Atoms, early Celerons etc…. People wrote great software on all those devices, and yet all are considerably slower than a Pi1. The Pi3 is 10x faster than a Pi1 (unless you use NEON, when you get > 30x faster).

My point exactly. Your comparing the Pi favourably with ancient machines. Roll forward to more recent history, like an Athlon, and it’s off the radar.

Which doesn’t matter at all! It uses older tech because older tech is cheaper. You want newer tech, it costs more! It’s quite simple!

The Pi is as good as it need to be, and still only $35.

Neil – let’s see you put your Athlon boat anchor in your pocket, running off a battery, generating a 40-million-polygon/second 1080p60 video stream, supporting a touchscreen interface, and recording a 1080p camera input, all for 35 smackers. It’s OK, I’ll wait … NOT!

Ok, I’ll concede that the built-in GPU is a step up from an Athlon. Forgive me, I had an irresistible urge for a touch of trolling. As I said, not bad … for the money.

Does your old Athlon have HDMI output and only use a few watts of power? Is your old Athlon completely silent?

I use my Pi 2 as a “set top box” running OpenElec/KODI and it’s perfect for this. No fans mean it’s silent. The low power usage means I can leave it on 24/7 without feeling guilty about power usage. And the HDMI output means it works seamlessly with my TV and TV remote (via the CEC standard). It’s pretty much perfect for this usage.

Me needs Giga Ethernet =-|

Why?

Bought mine today & bought the Raspberry Pi 2 last year. I run OSMC on mine. Happy Birthday and thanks for a great British built computer :D

Hey, does this price include the Jam sandwich, or do I have to purchase bread and Jam separately?

It’ll only hand you the plate and cutlery, any ingredients are extra. Mind, the bread and butter can be obtained for free with NOOBS. Bon Apetit! ;-)

Congrats on the new Pi!

Will the official case be replaced to fit the LEDs?

Does the built-in (and disconnected) FM radio support RDS?

“…its only unused feature is a disconnected FM radio receiver.” https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-3-specs-benchmarks/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Data_System

Great…. 35$ In Portugal equals 48€ at official providers….

It seems that currency conversion is not the best feature of this new RaspberryPi.

This is amazing! With built in Wifi and Bluetooth you could have it so nothing was plugged into the USBs on the rpi (bluetooth keyboard and mouse, wifi is built in…)

I would like to purchase one of your computers.
Thank you, William Farris

Congratulations from Argentina, Raspberry Pi sets the standard of cheap, single board computers, due not only to its technical features but also to it great and supportive community. Carry on with the good work and I’m looking forward to see all new software components in mainline linux kernel sources!!

AWESOME!!!!

Holy moly, turn away for a moment and come back to find 64-bits and built-in wifi for the same low price?!! Now I can have an inexpensive 64x development platform carried around in my pocket with which to try things anywhere before implementing on a production system. That is too awesome for words! Thought for sure it would be at least another year or more before being able to up the hardware features at the price point but again the Foundation surpasses anyone’s expectations. No wonder we haven’t heard from James Adams for some time. You should give the guy some rest.

Incredible job Raspberry Pi Foundation and a Happy Birthday! Your continued commitment to education, willingness to personally support and listen to the community, and attention to quality hardware even at low cost is what keeps me and many others coming back for more Pi(e). This is the bar by which others should be compared.

Well I already own 4 raspberry pi 1/2 until today and my expectations were mainly about having gigabit internet in a next release…

100bT is really a bottleneck nowadays as gigabit ethernet is everywhere when you get a device with ethernet and it is more than 3 times the best wifi you get…

so I’m gonna pass this time!

You can add a USB gigabit adaptor, and you do get slightly improved performance (250MBps).

Why do you need gigabit Ethernet?

Two questions:

1) Can we address the bluetooth as a serial port, and will it accept standard AT commands?

1a) If so, is there a command reference available?

2) Is there provision to connect an external Bluetooth antenna? Bluetooth (and, for that matter, WiFi) don’t work too well when the whole thing is inside a sealed metal cabinet. If not, we’ll have to stick to the Pi2 and a connectBlue bluetooth module. :(

So if i understand well , i could get rid of the ethernet cables and might even improve my connection speed as it wo’nt be shared with the usb ports….
Damn i’m going to have to replace the 2 Pi that hang in my living room.

Congrats guys and girls and have a happy birthday.

In USA, sell through Newegg and Amazon and make us all happy while selling a lot more. N-e-w-a-r-k really sucks to deal with. Psyched about Pi 3b but still waiting to get my first Pi Zero. Still not available anywhere in USA. If possible produce more,and faster. Sell through a wider variety of vendors. Other than that, keep up the great Pi work! Raspberry Pi was a truly GREAT IDEA!!!

I can install OS version 32bit?

32bit is the only choice at present.

Texy – the correct response is, “Why, yes, of course you can!” First rule of marketing – answer the customer’s question and only the customer’s question, and then shut the flak up! :D

I’m too honest to be a marketing man ;-)

Texy

Just ordered one – just the thing for the PI tablet I built with the touchscreen accessory last year, looks like it will fit right into the enclosure without modifications, and the USB ports will be free of Bluetooth & WIFI dongles. Wonder if I’ll get the PI 3 or the PI zero first?

Why don’t you guys release new RPIs on pi day? I think it could make sense.

JATECH – Look forward to the announcement of the Pi Model 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679…B

on March 14, 2016, at precisely 1:59:26.535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 … PM – it would be too early at that time in the AM, unless we stay up late the previous night. Oh, what the heck, announce it at both times! :D

A potential reason for not releasing on Pi Day is because if they released on Pi Day, nobody would have it for Pi Day.

Releasing on their 4th/1st anniversary makes sense, and now some people can have it in time for Pi Day.

Someone above mentioned that there was no longer support for i2s. Is this true.

No. Eben explained that he foresees a moment when demand for the original RPi1 and the RPi2 will drop to insignificant numbers now that the RPi3 is out, that in the long term they might be shelved. But not in the foreseeable future. The RPi3 is 100% backwards compatible with previous versions, it’s just that bit quicker ;-) The Zero continues to be made, at least until demand drops. The Zero is designed to be a cheap and quick gap-filler in the production schedule, and they can make a lot in one go as the factory can fit a lot more Zero boards on a wafer then the RPi3 versions. For now, they make 100k RPi3 units a week, according to Eben. Demand for the RPi3 will remain high for a while, but once the initial surge is over, capacity can be redistributed and the Zero will get some more capacity. Yes, it’s a PITA for those waiting for their Zero, but difficult choices made will always leave some disappointed.

Thanks. Hope you’re right as my main RPI use is as a server running MPD distros. Thought it odd as I suspect a lot of folks use it for a music server and not just with USB. And as you say, to say it’s 100% backward compatible implies no drastic change to previous features.

Great to have built-in wifi now….

I can’t wait to get some change saved up for this. It’s powerful enough to run as my home file server and my web server!

Can’t wait to get my hands on this.

Have had the original version, but didn’t get the 2 that came since, definitely will be picking this one up.

that is awesome !

That’s good news!!

Hello, can you hear me now? Uh, no. Okay – next board maybe?

1. where to find 2.5A microUSB adapter?
2. Can Pi 3 has finally able to plugin at least 2x 2.5″ 2TB HDD?

The chip includes IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n single-stream MAC/baseband/radio, Bluetooth 4.0 + HS and an integrated FM radio receiver. It is designed to be used with external 2.4 GHz and 5

Why not use the FM radio?

Eric

Where can I get it?
International shipping is also possible?

Check
Pimoroni/The Pi Hut
I believe they ship international and not at extortionate rates.

I have to throw the ideas of an external antenna connector in the ring as well. Not sure how it wold work with the board layout, but replacing one of the USB port blocks with an antenna connector would allow it to work with existing cases. Since we don’t need to use USB adapters for WiFi/Bluetooth, I would consider this an acceptable loss. If more USB connectivity is required, a USB hub still works.

Not including a port for external antenna is a major flaw. There are so many uses – weather stations, camera traps, tracking, meshed networking, robotics etc that an onboard antenna is useless for. Opportunity missed, shame.

You CAN add an external antenna to a PI3!
There is a small area on the back of the PCB where you can solder an antenna connector onto.

:-)

Move to 64 bit hardware is most welcome but you only want to stick to 32 bit firmware if you wan to kill RP-3 based devices in 2038 with “Year 2038 problem”.

32-bit processors can still do 64-bit arithmetic ;-) It’s just that silly unix programmers have picked a 32-bit type to store the time.

What’s in the box? Does it ship with an OS, i.e. Ubuntu etc?

Retailers often sell bundles that include an SD card, but the Pi doesn’t come with one by default, or with any other peripherals or accessories. You can buy an SD card that’s preinstalled with NOOBS, our easy OS install manager, or install an OS yourself on a blank SD card. Our default OS, Raspbian, and NOOBS, our easy installer for Raspbian and more, are available to Download here. There’s more information on setting up your Raspberry Pi on our Help page.

Eagerly waiting it to be available in India..,

Ordered yesterday (2nd March)…, expecting to be arrived by Monday (7th March)..,

How can I buy ?
I’m from Myanmar

You’ll find our distributors linked from our product pages; they offer international shipping and/or have local resellers. Independent resellers will also usually ship internationally, and your favourite search engine will find these for you.

Nice I ordered mine from element 14. Can’t believe I was lucky enough to get it from the first batch. It’s time for my R Pi 2 to meet it’s bigger brother. Hopefully, I can do more CPU intensive tasks with on Raspbian now.

4 years ago today I was waiting for my first Pi to be delivered, several more have since found their way into various uses around the house – the Pi3 that arrived this morning will soon have a role too! (not sure what yet!) Thanks very much to the RPI Foundation & team for keeping a middle aged geek very happy! :-) First challenge is to figure out how to get PXE boot working…

Nah, I’ll wait for the Raspberry Pi 4, thanks. It’ll be out next week with the speed these guys work at ;)

Seriously though, great work guys and thanks. This is a game changer.

Is the 3.5 audio out improved yet? Or will I still need a dac for quality audio(I’m using max2play)

I heard that there has been a change in the audio? .. but I don’t know all the ins and outs … could some one help? I’ve got a phat dac will it work , will I even need it? thx

An updated audio driver is in the works (not only for RasPi 3).

Thanks for the tip Jeff … I’ll keep an eye out for that!

Hi,
I’m very interested in this improvement, for my project http://www.samplerbox.org/
Do you have a link for this? For the in-progress new audio driver?
Cheers.

Have a look at the “Advanced users” section in the forums. Nice project :)

Do you need the B(+) model by the way? The A(+) should need less power; as far as I know a RasPi 3 A will be released, too. Also, USB booting might be of interest to you – in case this frees up the (micro) SD card slot.

Hello,

I am pi fan. Having all the version they have sold so far. Running my personal website on the pi (512 Mb version) for last 3 years.
In the new pi, since its 64 bit can it run regular 64 bit applications? http://www.splunk.com/en_us/download/splunk-enterprise.html is what i am particularly interested splunk-6.3.3-f44afce176d0-Linux-x86_64.tgz

That’s x64 (PC) not 64-bit ARM I’m afraid.

Assurdo! Vai così scecc :D grandissimi!

I ordered one, they said I have to wait :-< too many fans

eben stated in an interview (i think the video interview with make magazine) that this is the end of the line for the current SOC.

further bigger improvements (more ram, sata, gigabit lan,…) won’t be possible.

so this means the raspberry pi 4 won’t be backward compatible? and it will take much longer to develop it? 3 years? :)

what about the future of videocore? will the videocore 5 (or its 3d part only) ever see the light of the day?

i am looking forward to the model A 3. :) will it have less ram? what other limitations?

Where can I buy it in India?

WAAANT!!!
Even so, at my age, I shall be in “Landfill” before my original Pi…

ok, and what about ram ??
1GB or has it more ??

Still 1GB RAM

How can we use 2.5A in that usb connector? I think it supports only 1.8A (http://www.molex.com/molex/products/family?key=usb&channel=products&chanName=family&pageTitle=Introduction&parentKey=usb_products). Or I’m wrong?

2.5 Amps for the whole config = pi + all attachments,
not only the usb ports or 1 usb port !

I mean the usb port for the power supply. It is supposed to support 2.5A, but I think it does not support it.

Does the BCM2837 fix the earlier Pis’ I2C clock-stretching bug? http://www.advamation.com/knowhow/raspberrypi/rpi-i2c-bug.html

I wonder, with the built in wifi and/or bluetooth, do you think it would be possible to cluster a collection without the need for an external hub (since most wifi chips can become a hotspot)?

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