It will, but you won’t be able to do that until they’ve cleared their order backlog. I’m afraid I don’t have any data at the moment on bulk shipping costs, but I do know that you can make very big savings on shipping by making bulk orders.

The text did mention that all prices are converted from GBP, which might account for the Canadian/US difference plus I imagine taxes are different.

This is only speculation, but it’s possible that Farnell doesn’t have a physical presence in Canada, if that were true they would have to ship it to the closest distributor in USA then ship it across the boarder which would explain the extra cost. Or maybe they do have a physical presence but Canada chargers more on imports?

But like I said, that’s all speculation and since I doubt even Liz is privy to the details of Farnell’s pricing chart, it’s probably a question best asked to Farnell directly ;-)

The Raspberry Pi is the same price in USA, Canda and Mexico -its the shipping and duty charges that cause the price variance. product will be shipped from our US warehouses. Hope that clarifies the situation

Try asking Farnell.

Would you like to buy in Italy? It sums up to over 35 Euros…

This isn’t the right place, I’m afraid; they’re being built not by us, but by element14 and RS. Your best bet is to telephone them. My understanding is that those lead times are deliberately pessimistic; it *could* take that long, but they’re doing everything to ensure it doesn’t.

I think you didn’t see it in the forum. It is there. This first release has never been aimed at children; we will be having a separate educational release later in the year. This is because we need the community to help build a software stack, come up with kid-friendly applications and so on; releasing to the wider community first means a better experience for kids later on. There are also a number of books and other learning materials that people are working on at the moment, but obviously they need hardware before their work can be completed. This all means that it’s sensible to have an educational/kids’ release later, and separate from, our main consumer release.

We’ve been talking to other charities, NGOs, governments, universities and schools about getting units to the developing world markets you’re talking about here. We’re only at the start of a very long and tough period for the Foundation at the moment – please understand that reaching all our charitable goals takes some time, so you won’t see instant results!

Ignore my question – it was in the previous HTML table layout. On the screen grab it is fine. Probably some rows were shifted.

I believe you will be buying from RS or Farnell but they do have presence in Australia, so you need to pay tax. I could be wrong.

Whenever I purchase something from RS or Farnell in Australia, even if the product is sent from the UK, I pay 10% GST because the order was placed via RS/Element14 Australia.

Product will be shipped from element14 directly and not from the UK – hope that clarifies and explains why sales tax is chargeable.

No.

the price points have always been before tax and shipping

Not yet – that limit will be gone when both companies have cleared their backlogs.

Both US and Canada prices include brokerage charge and duty. Maybe those differ between the US and Canada?

This is also a question that would be more appropriately asked to Farnell I as doubt they’ve let Liz or Eben in on the reasoning for every cent for every tax or shipping charge in every country ;-)

Whilst this doesn’t effect me, it would be interesting to find out what happened to RS’s definite statement they would be accepting PayPal (ref: DesignSpark and on the website) and I think I recall Farnell mentioning somewhere they would as well (can’t find the reference at the moment).

The Australian RS website does mention bank transfer under their terms page and Element14 (Australia) mention it on their invoices along with bank details.

Now, you see; that’s just the sort of thing that’s going to get you banned. And I do not have a light touch with the banhammer. Please don’t let the door hit you etc. etc.

Eben has received your email and will reply to it when he is able to. As for “dedicate also sometime to your inbox” – I wish you could see what it’s like here at the moment. I dedicate so much time to my inbox that I do not get to bed before midnight (and I work in the evenings as well as during the day), I hardly ever get to see my family, and my friends all think I’m dead. We get rather a lot of email here.

Well read.

My original delivery date from Farnell / Element 14 was week commencing 12 March. It is now well over a week past then and I have received absolutely no direct communication from them. I keep up-to-date on the news from Liz and Eben (and thank you for that) but Farnell have said nothing to me directly about missing the original estimated delivery date.
Basically; don’t hold your breath for any ‘official announcement to clarify the position’.

As per the table the price excludes taxes in Canada. How much the tax is depends on what Province you live in. For BC we have HST so its 14% (assuming its taxable). As your Province doesn’t appear to have the blended HST tax the issue of how much, if any, Provincial tax is payable will depend on your tax rules

I’d suggest asking that question of Farnell

I fear that until the distributors actually start distributing the things such a table is impossible. But hopefully soon all these glitches, hiccups and tests will get wrapped up and the distributors will be able to provide such information (which, I’m sure, will be replicated here in short order ;-))

+1 to this, I think ballpark Months should be listed as I think this will manage the expectations of your customers.

If I new my order was going to take 7 months (ordered 13th of March, latest estimate is October) I might not have gone through the effort.

They’ve seemed to have had this glitch for just about every country so far! Keep contacting them and they should straighten things out. I don’t suppose you had more than one shipping option? I’m in the USA and we had several options, but the advertised 5 dollars (well 5.29 for me) was only on one of the shipping options, if I had chosen one of the faster options I would have ended up paying more than price shown in the matrix.

As they have promised again and again to keep to the lowest price offered, just “click OK”, and start waiting for your ‘PI. When/after your ‘PI arrives, make sure that you are charged the right amount. Make sure to make a backup/screenshot of the pricing table as it is now, to make sure that you know what you are supposed to be charged.

When they end up charging more than you expected, tell them so, ask them to refund you and if neccessary file a dispute with your credit card company.

On the other hand, I have the impression they are doing everything they can to make sure that the price at shipping/charging time will be corrected.
(I have the impression they have created a

Unfortunately the ’30 day rule’ just states that if they are unable to ship within 30 days (of the date they quoted you, not your order date) they must give you the option of agreeing to the delay or canceling your order and getting a ‘prompt’ refund (and going to the back of the line).

Apologies for any confusion – in some cases systems have not all been updated with the unique selling conditions of raspberry pi. We have rechecked the full backlog in Europe as a result of your comment and whatever the system told you we will charge as per the matrix above for credit card orders unless your original order price was lower (in which case we w ill honour it). This will mean in France the price is £32.70 inclusive of delivery and tax. (c.39.24 euros).

Have you seen, or tried to work with, the “HTML” that word outputs?

Cases are not yet officially available, but here is a case maker which gives 5% of each sale back to the RaspberryPi Foundation: http://www.modmypi.com/products.php

that will be later this year. this question has been asked numerous times and is in the faq.

I was talking about the Canadian versus US pricing

The $7 is a UPS brokerage fee to ship it across the border from the US.

As many others have said its shipping and brokerage charges. The raspberry Pi’s themselves are the same price for USA, Canada and mexico – just delivery charges that vary. Hope that clarifies

Yes, I would also like to know price for South Africa?

Local RS websites still has the following:

“Price: Raspberry Pi Model B = £21.60
+ Shipping Charge = £4.95”

the element14 price for South Africa is £38.65 including delivery. This excludes any tax applicable at customs or other local taxes.
thanks

Nice plan but RS UK is not the supplier in Canada (which is my home country) or the US. Their affiliate here is Allied Electric (button on the RasPi homepage). While they show the price at $35 (actually $36.23 CAN if you order) there is no info from them about cost for shipping

If the foundation did their own manufacture and selling, you wouldn’t get one until next year, basically because RS and Farnell can afford to make in much larger quantities. There are teething problems with the sites – they will get better. And you will get product this side of doomsday.
If you look below you will see some people cannot afford it even at $35 (plus whatever), so I think you statement that we should sell at $50 ‘because its worth it’ doesn’t really hold water.

As we like to order 1000s of units later on, 1 EUR change _does_ make a change. Any special discount on larger orders, btw?

As most everybody here realises, $25 (Model A) and $35 (Model B) are the base prices, without tax or duty. Sadly, some areas have to pay more sales tax (to their governments, not to us!), duty and other taxes than others.

Several (several) people had suggested doing this, in the end the RPF decided that such a price hike would have people calling foul and doing so quite appropriately. I mean, there’s enough of a stink going on because people can’t grasp that shipping and tax aren’t included in the base price. It makes me giggle when I think about these people going to McDonald’s and demanding to speak to the manager because their 99 cent menu item is 1.07 after tax. “Your sign says 99 cents but you charged me tax! That’s false advertising! You should change the sign!”

Soapbox sarcasm aside, the $25 dollar price for the model A and the $35 dollar price for the model B has been a firm decision since the beginning. The supply issue is a momentary one (though it feels like forever as we wait for it). Since they’re using distributors who can directly manufacture the boards things will rapidly pick up the pace… just as soon as the RPF can stop getting waylaid by last minute changes forced upon them ;-)

I wanted to say the same thing :D, Google Docs also works nice ;) But that also means he is using Windows… sad man…

I believe you meant to say the shop “isn’t” open yet. The shop will be down until at least next week, but with things right now, it all depends on what other surprises lay around the corner that might waylay the process ;-)

you’re right – we’ll add in the next version but its £32.70 incl tax and delivery, just so you’re clear. My geography is getting better every day

I strongly suspect that a good number of people who receive one in the first batch will not put the time and effort in to read up of how to get the OS installed on a SD card and they’ll appear on eBay quite soon after that….I also expect that their expectations will be far higher than a $35 board could ever deliver. I hope I’m wrong, but I know of a number of people who have ordered them who have only ever been spoon fed by Jobs and Gates and don’t actually want to learn….They want the latest toy/gadget and will always be consumers rather than creators.

So, I’d keep and eye on eBay after the launch and I’m sure you may find a few. Not ideal, but better than nothing.

Back to the original question, the answer is RS has just announced that you’ll be able to purchase from them using paypal

Fair point, but you will need to approach Farnell/Element14 as they are the responsible party.

Please accept our apologies for any offence cause by the description. However theVAT treatment and shipping charges are different when selling to the North and South of Cyprus and our descriptor was intended to help make that clear to customers.

Southern Cyprus is within the EU for VAT purposes and we have to charge UK VAT (at 20%) when we ship from UK as in this instance.

Northern Cyprus is controlled by Turkey and as such regarded as outside the EU. This means that we treat sales to Northern Cyprus as an Export when shipping from the UK and so although exempt from UK VAT, customers may be liable for import tax when it arrives in country.

Also, our logistics partners advise that we can ship directly to Southern Cyprus, but for deliveries to Northern Cyprus we have to ship through Turkey. The charges for shipping to the two areas are therefore also different.

Manufacturing is ramping as fast as possible. There are a lot of backlog orders to fulfil.

We all had a vote and after your volcano barfed all over us we decided to ask you to leave. Didn’t you get the memo?

Note to RPF:

Calm, deep breaths and retire to your quiet place.

Give it a rest. Liz is unpaid. Eben is unpaid. If you think they are making any money out of this you are sadly mistaken. They are spending lots, not making any! The price is STILL $25 and $35 before shipping and tax.

You got them, they actually get 100% of the cost of shipping and, despite it being impossible, they get the VAT charge and the local taxes get rerouted to them.

Or I suppose we could use the barest level of intelligence, realize that they’ll see none of the shipping, VAT, or tax charges and grasp the fact that it’s still only a $25/$35 board and in shipping and vat/tax is something you have to deal with on all online orders. (well maybe not tax sometimes depending on the local laws of your state/country)

Well, the times are changing rather quickly, recently was announced full spec android/ubuntu HDMI dongle, wifi capable, usb powered, 1GHz, 512-1Gb ram, for roughly 50-70$ USD. I guess the future path for linux/android micro devices is clear ahead. The interest in Raspberry Pi will quickly wash off before Q3/4 2012..

Apologies for the delays – these sort of things happen to most products – but because the Foundation is quite open you have heard about all the problems. Also, the huge number of orders means a long waiting time.

I got charged $62.72 on the same day. I emailed them about this and they are asserting taxes of 14GBP, which is greater than 50%. I’m still emailing them so let’s see, but this looks like highway robbery. No state in the nation charges that much in sales taxes and import duties in this country cannot be nearly that punitive at any level – not for cheap computing equipment anyway!