Pi in the sky
I think more of you have emailed me about this than about anything else that anybody has ever done with a Raspberry Pi.
What you’ve just looked at are, we think, the highest ever photographs transmitted live from an amateur device in the
UK world. Dave Akerman hooked a Raspberry Pi with a webcam and GPS up to a hydrogen balloon, which got nearly 40km up (39,994m, to be precise) before bursting. This means that Dave’s is the first Raspberry Pi to visit near space (it returned unharmed, and Dave was able to recover it), and also means that Eben does not have to eat that hat he mentioned.
If you want to learn more, visit Dave’s blog, where he has documented the flight minutely, to find out how he did it. He’s also put up a couple of Flickr sets: one full of images sent from the Raspberry Pi on its journey, and one of photos from the ground. Here at the Foundation, we’ve been reading his page on the project over and over, jaws on the floor. Well done Dave. We’re sending you a big virtual round of applause.
TheRegister will be all over this! Looks like a much more interesting (and cheaper) method than their ‘LOHAN’ and ‘PARIS’ launches – though PARIS did produce some fantastic photos!
I think they actually got to it yesterday, before we did! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/17/pi_ascent/ (We had a bit of a hold-up here because it takes such a long time to push new images out to the mirrors and we really wanted to post about Raspbian yesterday.)
Guilherme de Sousa
Finally a post about this great project!
I think this video is missing here, can you add it Liz?
best regards !
That video, sadly, wasn’t taken with the Raspberry Pi, but with a GoPro Hero 2 camera (attached to the same balloon), which is why I haven’t included it in the blog post.
I’m thinking about things to add for the next flight, and having the Pi take video footage (possibly using a second webcam, or that new camera) is on the list.
The camera board would be a good option; it’s very light. I remain pathetically excited about the whole thing; please mail me next time you try something!
Gert van Loo
Dave, just contact us before you send up your next balloon. Even if there is not yet an official camera, we might be able to have enough trial SW so we can lend you our 14MP prototype. (And yes, at the moment there is only ONE prototype). Also I am looking at reducing power consumption by (hopefully) 40% so you can use smaller batteries.
Guilherme de Sousa
That’s true, but they only got the camera back because the Pi was transmiting the GPS location:P
great project, very inspirational! But my reading of the writeup is the Pi’s GPS got stuck at the launch location, and they got the GPS location readings from one of the other two packages on the string.
Correct. My fault – I knew from testing I had to keep the GPS receiver away from everything else. After assembling the payload it got a lock very quickly, but I should have checked afterwards that it hadn’t lost it.
A friend (Anthony, who launched with me) is designing a PCB now to hold the GPS and radio, with options for SPI and one-wire sensors. That will connect to the Pi via a ribbon cable, and it will have a much better GPS receiver, so this issue will disappear.
Given the comment about heat build up inside the R-Pi package, also thinking about a bimetallic strip (simple thermostat) to open a window for cooling as needed.
Oh, really? Vertical video?
Very good – off topic slightly, but you need to laugh now and again – Bookmarked!
In fairness to my better half Julie, who took the video, it did help get that long flight train in the video.
LOL at the YT video BTW.
I watched this from a link in the earlier thread and was impressed, though one thought crossed my mind – do you need to get air clearance to launch one of these balloons?
Then whilst watching the embedded video an aircraft can quite clearly be heard flying over – I would hate to think what damage a balloon sucked into a jet engine could do!
You do, and Dave discusses it in the very first paragraph of his blog post about the project. http://www.daveakerman.com/?p=592
Sorry, I skim subjects and immediately question things without looking – must do better in future :)
“I would hate to think what damage a balloon sucked into a jet engine could do!”
Probably not that much? They have to be able to withstand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_strike
Additionally, latex is quite soft, and a quick bit of google-searching says that latex melts at 250-350F but jet fuel burns at 500-600F :)
Yes, but the ballon is also filled with hydrogen…
Hydrogen? Helium surely.
I know it says hydrogen in the into from Liz, but I watched the video yesterday and I’m sure it was mentioned that it was helium.
Hydrogen is too “Hindenberg”!
It was hydrogen, and the Hindenburg disaster was not a fault of the hydrogen.
Wasn’t it to do with the lacquer they’d used on the shell? Fascinating stuff (and ruined hydrogen, which got the blame, for everyone else).
Yes, I did the 3D animation for Rolls Royce when they launched the Trent engine (many moons ago…), and they even go to the lengths of shooting them the right way round so that the breast bone goes in first as it’s the hardest part.
OH EM GEE!! That’s bloody brilliant!! =)
Google did this with Android a while ago (http://android.hibal.org/) but I have been wanting to try it myself as well. Just got my board in the mail yesterday and it’s very cool! Can’t wait to see what kind of fun things I can do with it. Also looking forward to seeing a production version of that onboard/ribbon camera :)
Yes, the Android thing was an interesting project, though phones didn’t really do much themselves – the tracking and photography were done by other devices.
The video where an Android toy robot gets sent by a flailing nylon cord to its doom is a classic.
To boldly go where no Raspberry Pi has gone before :-)
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
Well done Dave an excellent achievement.
One word. Awesome.
I think the project Horus boys just edge out on the altitude record: http://projecthorus.org/?page_id=1858. It’s almost too close to call :)
It’s altitude plus live photos that we believe Dave now has the record for. Not many people have done that yet, because until now it’s not been easy to do it cheaply.
Exactly so. Previously I’ve flown Arduinos but you can’t plug a USB webcam into one of those. You can get serial cameras but one of those is twice the price of a Pi, and then you have to find a processor with enough power and memory to do the conversion from jpeg to the download format.
The highest transmitted images previously worldwide were at about 35km (a flight in Holland), so unless there’s a flight I’m not aware of then the Pi got the highest transmitted images by 5km.
The absolute altitude record is at 43721m, held by Steve Randall (if you’ve seen any of these flights on TV, Steve was probably behind it). He and I flew altitude attempts on the same day, and I first broke his previous record by a 1km before he took the record back by 82m. I held that record for 5 minutes 40 seconds, but I’m not bitter :-)
Just out of interest, would a significant weight reduction in the payload have an impact on altitude? I’m thinking heatsink/battery weight – we’re wondering if there’s anything we can do to help you go higher.
My switched-mode power modules arrived today, and they will help on that side. When I get time I’ll do some tests to see what I can get the batteries down to.
Every gram costs (depending on who you believe) 1 – 3 metres in altitude, so the odd few grams here or there don’t make an awful lot of difference (says the person who missed the record by 82m!).
There’s no doubt that a Pi could be flown a lot higher than 40km – remember that that was achieved with a medium size balloon and 2 other payloads hanging below!
John – K7VE
Not quite the record, but a great achievement.
Here is another interesting flight: http://www.arrl.org/news/amateur-radio-balloon-flight-crosses-atlantic-sets-records
The Raspberry Pi is getting a following in Amateur Radio. I have built .deb files for D-STAR (a Digital Radio system in Amateur Radio) — http://nw7dr.dstar-relay.net/debian
Brilliant! Next step, unmanned drones with our nice device :)
Y’mean something like this? ;)
Reading this with great interest (at work ;-) and radio starts playing Star Man by Bowie. Nice coincidence.
I still haven’t found time to get the 2 buttons and some LED’s system going – I have a long way to go I think.
How were the images transmitted live? By what means?
Using 300 baud rtty over a 10mW 434.65MHz radio link to a network of enthusiasts each using an amateur radio receiver hooked up to a PC to decode the signals. The entire infrastructure was built by other enthusiasts in the UKHAS group, including students at the Cambridge University SpaceFlight and Philip Heron who wrote the code to encode and decode the image data, and I’m indebted to all of them. More details on the image encoding at http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:ssdv and in the tracking system in general at http://ukhas.org.uk/guides:tracking_guide.
Thank you :-)
This is worth its weight in gold
Up until a couple of years ago, no amateur would even dream of a live motion-pictures feed from near space
Just to be pedantic, radio hams in the US were sending back live TV from weather balloons in the late 80s. Definitely more technical foo required for that back then, granted
This is what they means when talking about “computing on the cloud”??? :P
An alarming lack of basic physics/maths knowledge displayed by these two. Always climb a gate at the hinge end. Principle of levers.
I’m guessing there was a good reason for not just opening it.
The gate lock is jammed and doesn’t open.
Thanks for the input.
Lo único que puedo decir es fantástico, felicitaciones
how does the raspberry pi transmit data?