MeeGo development on Raspberry Pi – video

The videos are starting to come in from partners we’ve sent alpha boards to at a very satisfying rate. Here’s Raspberry Pi booting QMLviewer on Mer, which is an open Maemo platform. (You’ll notice the kernel boot sequence looks a bit different from the Debian install you’ve seen in previous videos.)

QMLviewer boots here in 24 seconds – not bad! Thanks to the guys at MeeGo for their work on this; we hope to see some more from them in the coming weeks.

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Yum! Not bad! I liked it! Congratulations!

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Does QMLViewer use X? If so, can they help you to speed up X on R-Pi as I understood that X does not work smoothly yet as the hardware acceleration is not 100% yet?

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If they’ve begun to port this across to the ARMv11 architecture, do you think they’ll port MeeGo In-Vehicle IVI?

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Raspberry Pi is ARMv6. I don’t think there’s anything newer than ARMv7 which is used in most smartphones.

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I’m afraid Arm weird numbering system strikes again.

The Arm11 processor used in the Raspi, as Narishma said, actually uses an Armv6 instruction set. Devices like the Arm A8-Cortex used the Armv7 instruction set.

See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ARM_microprocessor_cores

Don’t blame us, blame Arm!

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it’s that weird multidimensional bistro math that they teach at cambridge that is to blame. i bet if they’d been educated at oxford they’d use a “normal” numbering system.

/me starts a new oxbridge feud that is nothing on the boat race.

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Yeah, Cambridge may have the ARM Raspberry Pi but secret labs at Oxford are working on the 15 ecu transputer strawberry fool

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I guess if my original post didn’t make it glaringly obvious, ARM processors are not exactly my strong suit.

I’ll run off now and research more on ARMv6

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I hope to see more impressive videos. Somehow all videos that I saw about Raspi is NOT impressive. Dull and boring.

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Give it time young Padawan, give it time.

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Kentaro, although the frame rate isn’t as consistently high as we know the processor is capable of, we think the Quake 3 demo is pretty damn impressive for a computer that costs £15: http://www.raspberrypi.org/2011/08/demo-raspberry-pi-running-quake-3/

I’m sure we’ll have more impressive demos nearer or soon after launch – which is still around 3 months away. The developer that posted this video got hold of his alpha board less than 72 hours ago and like the rest of us has a day job that doesn’t involve Raspberry Pi – so the video represents just a couple of hours’ work. Similarly, the KidsRuby guys had their board for about 24 hours before stepping onto the stage. The KidsRuby project really captures our aims for this project – we both want to inspire children to learn how to program computers, not just play games or word process school reports with them.

BTW, if you have any suggestions for what would impress you (remembering the aims of this project), please do leave a comment.

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Processing (p5) and Arduino would both be great, as moving pixels or even stuff is much more fun than shifting bits only :)

Someone of you said, tutorials are not needed as there are so many good ones out there. I think a little tutorial on how to find tutorials was nice. (basics like google advanced search stuff, how wikis and blogs usually have the tutorials, which forums for which programming languages, how to get on IRC and maybe at least a link to a guide on which programmang language to learn for what)

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You are (partly) right and I think you never will be impressed. The part where you are right is that the demos are probably not impressive compared to what other computers can do. But then they cost at least ten times as much. The fact remains that yo get a stonking amount of performance for only $25. I suggest you lower your expectations with a factor ten, just like the price of the board, then judge again.

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At no point does he say that the platform is not impressive. He said the VIDEO is dull. I think the vid could have benefitted from some Michael Bay special FX but now, at least, we know that thing boots !

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Well…we didn’t make the video, so not the right place to complain then!

It’s been booting fine for a month now. Just no-one bothered to video it! As has been said, it’s not very interesting.

If I could, I’d video Linux booting on a Cray supercomputer- would still be dull though.

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Be nice see a video of a simple boot into OS and loading a browser and playing a youtube video then maybe iplayer … very simple but this is probably what a lot of PI users will do with it to start with.

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*Points meaningfully at Jamesh*

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I guess that means that we’ll have OpenEmbedded support out of the gate. Cool. :-D

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Meego on Raspberrypi? It would be GREAT!

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I want to see it booting into backtrack 5, there is an arm version for download. Can you please post a video of that? If I saw that I would be sold…

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Do you mean BackTrack Linux 5? If so: BackTrack Linux 5 is “based on Ubuntu Lucid”, which won’t run on the RasPi (with it’s ARMv6). Ubuntu Lucid and higher needs at least ARMv7. See info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM

“Ubuntu targets the ARMv7 and above Application Processor family (Cortex A8, A9 and above).

Limited support for earlier instruction sets (ARMv5t, ARMv6) was available in early releases of the ARM port (jaunty, karmic).”

The RasPi does run Debian, so maybe there’s a security oriented distro based on Debian (and ARMv6) you can use?

Out of curiosity: why would you like to run Backtrack 5 on such a small device as the Raspi? Isn’t it handier to run it on a laptop?

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Heh… I can see uses for BT5 or something LIKE it on an R-Pi. Some legit. Some not so much so.

I could see myself, once I actually get my PI license, doing agreed upon, but all-but-undetected pen-tests on some facilities- they tend to notice things like laptops with at least some of this stuff and they’re fully on their guard above what they’d normally be.

I can also someone using the same clandestine operations ability for much more nefarious purposes without permission.

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I like the price! Can wait to buy one.

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I will own one of this board for sure..

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Does it means we willbe able to load all flavours of MeeGo? I mean netbook, tablet, handset and so on?

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Too bad Intel and the Linux Foundation are dropping Meego for Tizen. Looks like Meego itself is now a dead end.

http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/09/28/1223250/intel-drops-meego

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Think of it more as a merger of the MeeGo and LiMo projects, a name change, and addition of an HTML5 capable browser and WAC (web development environment).

http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/archives/001574.html

Incedentally, it looks like Qt won’t be thrown out but rather will be de-emphasised:
http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/blog/2011/09/27/new-tizen-platform-linux-foundation-limo-intel-appup

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Some basic Meego maths for people interested in Meego on the Raspi:

Meego + RasberryPi = No go.

ARMv6 + Meego = No go.

ARMv7 + Meego = A go.

Maemo + Meego = NOT Meego.

Meego + Nokia = No go.

Meego + Intel = No go.

Meego + developers = No go.

Meego + users = No go.

Meego = No go.

Meego = Gone!

Meego = Tizen

Tizen + Nokia = No go.

Tizen + Intel = No go.

Tizen + RasberryPi = No go.

Tizen + more go = Don’t know. . .

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